RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
January 4, 2015 at 2:23 pm
(This post was last modified: January 4, 2015 at 2:25 pm by Dystopia.)
(January 4, 2015 at 1:49 pm)Nope Wrote: Could someone explain to me what it matters if some people have a genetic predisposition to rape? Some people are born sociopaths. It doesn't mean that they don't go to jail if they are caught hurting other people.I think rape desire is natural as someone pointed out, however not being able to control your body is not natural.
I do not believe that women are any kinder or more compassionate then men. If women were stronger and larger then most men, there would be more female on male rapes because there are women that like to dominate and humiliate others. For the most part, men are larger then women and so don't have to worry about being raped by women.
Let's take the institution of property - We humans created laws because otherwise we would kill each other for proprietary rights over objects, like houses, buildings, food and clothing - Is propriety natural? Some might say not, and we could say humans killing others to gain new property is valid as a naturalistic behaviour - But we can't forget that humans aren't just biology, we are complex beings with philosophical, ethical and moral traits that are very peculiar compared to other species. What separates us from the rest of the animal kingdom is our ability to rationalize behaviour and determine more or less what we do...
I've already linked a study that shows some significant factors regarding sexual assault that prove biology isn't the only factor to blame - i.e. Factors like believing in gender roles or consumption of alcohol - In fact if rape is natural as bennyboy says, why are sexual assaulter often drunk as stated in the study I forwarded - After all, someone drunk has less conscience and control, so the logical conclusion is that a sober rational human doesn't have an excuse to not control his behaviour..
I've already admitted that I have rape fantasies, but I'm also able to control my impulses, urges and I don't think it's natural for someone to not have control over their bodies knowing the law. To not have control would be, for example, a kleptomaniac, those people really have an uncontrollable urge to steal, but as far as I know if some sex predators even plan their crimes and stalk the victim, that just proves that it isn't as natural as bennyboy tries to make it seem.
Something important I'd like to clear out and bennyboy said is that I'm not here to demonize rapists or any other criminals, demonizing criminality and thinking executing all criminals solves the problem is an irrational idea - I'm all for rehabilitation, I'm just trying to clear some myths or wrong ideas.
Nope, the case of sociopaths is highly different because it is a condition people have no control over, it's more debatable, however sexual assault as I linked is not primary perpetuated by people with mental diseases or problems, it's done by many kinds of people - They are an heterogeneous group.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you