RE: [split] Agnostic atheism is the only intellectually honest position
July 29, 2010 at 8:18 am
(July 29, 2010 at 6:32 am)Scented Nectar Wrote: Even the vaguest of dictionary defs, MW's "infinite Mind" has not only a ton of the usual unprovabilities, but a logical contradiction/impossibility: Here's some of the unprovables (not that they are really needed for this, but I felt like including my side thoughts) followed by the logical problem. How could it ever be proven to me that some mind is encompassing EVERYTHING? For instance, let's say it turned out conclusively that our universe was merely a part of a large mind. How could I consider this to be infinite? Maybe there are others like it. Maybe there are also minds larger than it too just like it was larger than us. How would I even know that it reaches infinity? I wouldn't recognise infinity if I were staring it in the face. But it doesn't stop at just infinity questions. They only show its unprovability."Unprovability" points towards agnosticism; it doesn't help gnosticism at all.
Quote:The fullblown impossibility comes into play with it being a mind that is infinite. Since that mind has never reached as far as including me, it is at the least not infinite spacially or timewise. It would be everywhere&always if it were. And before anyone says well, maybe it's just not letting you know it's there, I say: Then it's not being infinite, just saying that it could be if it wanted to. If I were to say that I could get pregnant if I wanted to, does that mean I AM pregnant? If a mind were infinite, I would BE that mind.Yet the definition is vague; it does not say what kind of mind, just that it is infinite. If it were a human mind, that existed in our dimension of space, then yes, it would be impossible. However if this mind operates at a higher dimension, it can still be infinite without interfering with lower dimensions. Space/time is a description of the dimensions that we live in and comprehend, and you cannot rule out the existence of other dimensions where the so-called "infinite mind" might reside.
A 1D line can be infinite, yet it takes up an infinitesimal region of infinite 2D area, and that 2D area takes up an infinitesimal region of 3D space, and that infinite 3D space...etc. This is the thing about infinity; it isn't a number, it's a concept that is applied differently depending on the context you are talking about.
So I'm afraid I don't think your argument works against infinite minds.
