RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
January 5, 2015 at 10:48 am
(This post was last modified: January 5, 2015 at 10:50 am by Dystopia.)
Quote:-That doesn't describe the lions portion of male video game characters? They don't make the leading man a miserable loser who can't get a date. Panties melt in the presence of his granite jawline, perpetual stubble - and lets not forget his gun-arm (that's pretty much his only job..being the mule that hauls the big fucking gun around-sometimes I think the story would do just fine if the scenery just spoke to the gun rather than the character), eh?There's a difference between making someone attractive and objectifying someone - Male characters are frequently attractive, but to start off, there are different body types, facial features and so on, not all match the ideal of beauty for males (i.e. Gordon Freeman, Mr.47 from Hitman, Solid Snake as an old man, characters from GTA who were not that attractive, Kratos, do I need to continue) and on top of that male leading characters usually have personality, complex traits, good attributes like intelligence, strategic thinking, leadership skills, a lot of willpower, and this is far more important than their physical traits - Many female characters don't pass the test of having a personality that is more important than their body, not to mention there's a trend to make them all look the same with large boobs and curvy figures, cleavages and scantly clad.
Quote:If he's not the leading man he -is- the husband without an important role to the female lead - or..the bromance with the walking gun platform mentioned above.A secondary character can have a role without being simply a husband/wife or a princess meant to be saved. Uncharted for example has two female characters with roles in the action and story (despite both of them being very attractive)
Quote:again...not the leading man?...scenery.Really not the same.
Quote:Got me there, seems like an uncomfortable line for game devs to cross. Maybe that doesn't test well with their market?It's irrelevant if it sells or not.
Quote:Again, not the leading man, the leading mans lady, or the nuetered bromance.....scenery and npcs.I don't understand this part.
Quote:Video games are hilarious sexist...but it's not as if the male characters somehow escape that. They're jokes just the same. Largely, those games are made for kids, and like any saturday morning cartoon the characters are unbelievable and lacking in depth, male or female. All of that said....why -should- video games be a fair representation of reality? Is that what they're supposed to be? Here I thought they were fantasy....an intentional escape.That's why a lot of games are M rated and the average gamer age goes beyond 14 years old (they're not for kids) - They're fantasy, but as a form of entertainment what is portrayed (like in the media or films etc) influences how we see and expect society to behave - Yes many people like me care about the plot, characters depth of thematics other than graphics or gameplay (an example is Metal Gear Solid) - And having a sexist tone for any side (this is valid against women and men) supports stereotypes that people who play games are exposed to - If I played games my whole life that had women as prostitutes who had sex all the time, it would be natural for me to go out and think of all women as prostitutes. There's actually a lot of male characters that could use depth as well, to be fair, I'm merely talking about inclusive gaming and as you cannot ignore a significant part of the market since it can cause less revenue - It's easy for a male to say there's no sexism because you're not the female playing a game and finding female characters without personality (compared to males) portrayed or depicted as sex objects with no intelligent whose only role is to arouse the gamer, or maybe to be saved as a princess, etc doesn't affect you directly - I don't like this BS because some awesome gaming moments and characters who could have been great are reduced to empty concepts that hold little value and ruin my enjoyment. - And because I'm a pragmatic capitalism and I care about the industry since I want to continue to play games.
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