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Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God
(January 6, 2015 at 1:11 am)orangebox21 Wrote: 1. Free will exists so that we can freely choose to love God.

Fiat assertion. Citation needed.

(January 6, 2015 at 1:11 am)orangebox21 Wrote: 2. If God introduced Himself to us we would chose Him.

Fiat assertion. Non sequitur. Also your if is showing.

(January 6, 2015 at 1:11 am)orangebox21 Wrote: 3. Lucifer knew God

In the bible.

(January 6, 2015 at 1:11 am)orangebox21 Wrote: 4. Lucifer rejected God

In the bible.

(January 6, 2015 at 1:11 am)orangebox21 Wrote: 5. Individuals in the old testament talked to God.

In the bible.

(January 6, 2015 at 1:11 am)orangebox21 Wrote: Therefore, free will is necessary only for modern people and not bronze aged nomads or the angels.

Non sequitur. Fiat assertion. Total dependence on mythology without justification or foundation.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Nope - January 2, 2015 at 11:25 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by robvalue - January 2, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by dyresand - January 2, 2015 at 11:59 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 3:48 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Nope - January 3, 2015 at 1:21 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 1:47 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Nope - January 3, 2015 at 2:48 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by IATIA - January 3, 2015 at 2:32 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by dyresand - January 3, 2015 at 2:40 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Nope - January 3, 2015 at 2:41 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by dyresand - January 3, 2015 at 2:50 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 3:02 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Simon Moon - January 3, 2015 at 3:49 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 4:34 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by abaris - January 3, 2015 at 4:38 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by IATIA - January 3, 2015 at 4:38 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Nope - January 3, 2015 at 5:01 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by abaris - January 3, 2015 at 5:04 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 7:51 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by abaris - January 3, 2015 at 7:55 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 8:09 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Simon Moon - January 3, 2015 at 5:02 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by abaris - January 3, 2015 at 4:30 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 7:43 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by abaris - January 3, 2015 at 7:48 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by IATIA - January 3, 2015 at 4:37 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by h4ym4n - January 3, 2015 at 5:34 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 7:58 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Silver - January 3, 2015 at 8:04 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by h4ym4n - January 4, 2015 at 4:34 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by dyresand - January 3, 2015 at 8:47 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Whateverist - January 3, 2015 at 2:07 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by dyresand - January 3, 2015 at 2:22 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by robvalue - January 3, 2015 at 2:25 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by IATIA - January 3, 2015 at 2:44 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Simon Moon - January 3, 2015 at 2:49 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Natachan - January 3, 2015 at 7:21 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Nope - January 4, 2015 at 3:10 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 4, 2015 at 3:23 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 4, 2015 at 11:05 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by h4ym4n - January 5, 2015 at 6:55 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 5, 2015 at 4:07 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by abaris - January 5, 2015 at 4:16 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 5, 2015 at 4:23 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by dyresand - January 5, 2015 at 4:26 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 5, 2015 at 4:30 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Minimalist - January 4, 2015 at 11:46 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Nope - January 4, 2015 at 11:50 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 5, 2015 at 12:03 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by robvalue - January 5, 2015 at 12:12 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 5, 2015 at 1:06 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Minimalist - January 5, 2015 at 1:10 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by LastPoet - January 5, 2015 at 7:33 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Whateverist - January 5, 2015 at 9:58 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by dyresand - January 5, 2015 at 12:26 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Nope - January 5, 2015 at 10:25 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 5, 2015 at 4:17 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by dyresand - January 5, 2015 at 4:20 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by robvalue - January 5, 2015 at 12:27 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by The Grand Nudger - January 5, 2015 at 12:32 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by abaris - January 5, 2015 at 12:40 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by dyresand - January 5, 2015 at 12:43 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 5, 2015 at 4:28 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by dyresand - January 5, 2015 at 4:37 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 5, 2015 at 4:41 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by dyresand - January 5, 2015 at 4:44 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 5, 2015 at 5:08 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by abaris - January 5, 2015 at 5:16 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by h4ym4n - January 5, 2015 at 5:10 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 5, 2015 at 5:29 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by dyresand - January 5, 2015 at 5:32 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 5, 2015 at 5:34 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by dyresand - January 5, 2015 at 5:39 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by h4ym4n - January 5, 2015 at 5:36 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 5, 2015 at 11:45 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Whateverist - January 6, 2015 at 3:29 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by FatAndFaithless - January 5, 2015 at 12:41 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by The Grand Nudger - January 5, 2015 at 12:56 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by abaris - January 5, 2015 at 4:29 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 5, 2015 at 4:44 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by dyresand - January 5, 2015 at 5:03 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Drich - January 5, 2015 at 5:21 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by dyresand - January 5, 2015 at 5:47 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by h4ym4n - January 5, 2015 at 5:50 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by dyresand - January 5, 2015 at 5:52 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Cyberman - January 5, 2015 at 6:11 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by dyresand - January 5, 2015 at 6:28 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Cyberman - January 5, 2015 at 6:36 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by dyresand - January 5, 2015 at 6:53 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by dyresand - January 6, 2015 at 12:18 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2015 at 12:22 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by dyresand - January 6, 2015 at 12:24 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by orangebox21 - January 6, 2015 at 1:11 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by IATIA - January 6, 2015 at 11:00 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by dyresand - January 6, 2015 at 11:05 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by orangebox21 - January 6, 2015 at 11:41 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Cyberman - January 6, 2015 at 12:06 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by orangebox21 - January 6, 2015 at 2:03 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2015 at 11:49 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by IATIA - January 6, 2015 at 2:57 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by orangebox21 - January 7, 2015 at 11:34 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Nope - January 7, 2015 at 4:51 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Neo-Scholastic - January 7, 2015 at 5:20 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by orangebox21 - January 12, 2015 at 2:29 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by KevinM1 - January 6, 2015 at 1:16 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by dyresand - January 6, 2015 at 1:19 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by KevinM1 - January 6, 2015 at 1:30 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by robvalue - January 6, 2015 at 2:58 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Neo-Scholastic - January 6, 2015 at 3:57 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by robvalue - January 7, 2015 at 1:42 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by orangebox21 - January 7, 2015 at 4:35 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by The Grand Nudger - January 12, 2015 at 6:07 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by robvalue - January 13, 2015 at 2:50 am
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by orangebox21 - January 26, 2015 at 4:34 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by The Grand Nudger - January 26, 2015 at 4:57 pm
RE: Free Will and Loving/Rejecting God - by Cyberman - January 26, 2015 at 9:38 pm

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