RE: Can you make a God claim?
January 8, 2015 at 3:19 pm
(This post was last modified: January 8, 2015 at 3:25 pm by robvalue.)
No, personal testimony is not evidence. Sorry. If that's all it took, anyone can just claim anything. You need to be able to demonstrate something repeatedly before its convincing to a sceptic. Multiple testimonies might be a starting point, but investigation is then needed.
The claim someone loves you is not falsifiable. You could discover them behaving in ways that demonstrate they don't, like you find them cheating on you. I'm not talking about absolute truths here. I'm talking about having access to some sort of test or data.
The claim someone loves you could be reasonably assessed with evidence, and you could come to a valid conclusion. I see no problem there. It's a scientific method of sorts, you're dealing with real evidence.
Can anyone even define God in a coherent way? I don't think we even got that far. Or spirituality, ghosts, anything you like.
Apart from certain people who seem to have abandoned all reason and manners, this has been the most interesting discussion I've had with theists to date
Thanks guys! I feel we're approaching the same page, almost. I've enjoyed it.
Have any of those guys made a testable God claim then in that research? That's all I'm looking for here.
The claim someone loves you is not falsifiable. You could discover them behaving in ways that demonstrate they don't, like you find them cheating on you. I'm not talking about absolute truths here. I'm talking about having access to some sort of test or data.
The claim someone loves you could be reasonably assessed with evidence, and you could come to a valid conclusion. I see no problem there. It's a scientific method of sorts, you're dealing with real evidence.
Can anyone even define God in a coherent way? I don't think we even got that far. Or spirituality, ghosts, anything you like.
Apart from certain people who seem to have abandoned all reason and manners, this has been the most interesting discussion I've had with theists to date

Have any of those guys made a testable God claim then in that research? That's all I'm looking for here.
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