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Your opinion on the following statement:

Poll: "Coming to be is for the sake of being, not being for the sake of coming to be."
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I completely agree.
19.05%
 4 19.05%
I sort of agree.
9.52%
 2 9.52%
*shrugs*
66.67%
 14 66.67%
I sort of disagree.
0%
 0 0%
I completely disagree.
4.76%
 1 4.76%
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Your opinion on the following statement:
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RE: Your opinion on the following statement:
January 13, 2015 at 1:08 am
(January 13, 2015 at 1:02 am)Alex K Wrote:
(January 12, 2015 at 11:55 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: The rest of the quote I have goes:

"Hence Empedocles was wrong in saying that many attributes belong to animals because it happened so in their coming to be, for instance that their backbone is such because it happened to get broken by bending."

:-|

Well this makes it more concrete, so it is very useful context to make *any sense* of the first statement. What we can say for sure is that, indeed, empedocles was wrong here concerning.the details, but more correct than aristoteles: animals are indeed the way they are because "it" (natural selection) happened so in their coming to be. However, I get the feeling that precise meanings of words matter here...
Indeed the translators/commentators in "The Presocratic Philosophers" add: "We may rather praise [Empedocles] as the first thinker to see that biology needs both randomness and principles of organization in its exploratory equipment."
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Your opinion on the following statement: - by Mudhammam - January 12, 2015 at 11:28 pm
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Losty - January 12, 2015 at 11:31 pm
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Losty - January 13, 2015 at 5:51 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Minimalist - January 12, 2015 at 11:32 pm
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Jackalope - January 12, 2015 at 11:34 pm
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Alex K - January 13, 2015 at 5:18 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Mudhammam - January 12, 2015 at 11:55 pm
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Alex K - January 13, 2015 at 1:02 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Mudhammam - January 13, 2015 at 1:08 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Jackalope - January 13, 2015 at 1:04 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Chad32 - January 12, 2015 at 11:55 pm
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Mudhammam - January 12, 2015 at 11:58 pm
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by bennyboy - January 13, 2015 at 12:05 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Mudhammam - January 13, 2015 at 12:58 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by bennyboy - January 13, 2015 at 4:44 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Alex K - January 13, 2015 at 1:07 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Alex K - January 13, 2015 at 1:09 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Mudhammam - January 13, 2015 at 1:14 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Alex K - January 13, 2015 at 1:33 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Mudhammam - January 13, 2015 at 8:27 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Exian - January 13, 2015 at 2:43 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by robvalue - January 13, 2015 at 4:04 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by robvalue - January 13, 2015 at 4:47 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Alex K - January 13, 2015 at 5:59 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by ManMachine - January 13, 2015 at 6:25 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by bennyboy - January 13, 2015 at 9:30 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by ManMachine - January 13, 2015 at 2:17 pm
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by bennyboy - January 13, 2015 at 7:26 pm
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by ManMachine - January 13, 2015 at 7:49 pm
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by LostLocke - January 13, 2015 at 9:42 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Spooky - January 13, 2015 at 8:12 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Davka - January 13, 2015 at 10:46 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Mudhammam - January 13, 2015 at 10:52 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Davka - January 13, 2015 at 11:21 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Alex K - January 13, 2015 at 11:52 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Mudhammam - January 13, 2015 at 3:07 pm
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by LostLocke - January 13, 2015 at 11:50 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by robvalue - January 13, 2015 at 10:47 am
RE: Your opinion on the following statement: - by Mudhammam - January 13, 2015 at 8:13 pm

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