Mosque at Ground Zero

[Autumnlicious]

Because of the symbol other countries will derive from it.

So we should strip these Muslims of there rights to freedom of religion/worship because we care what other countries think?

They can worship where they want. I am not stripping their right to worship, only their privilege to build where they want, which is fully within the rights of the property owners and neighborhood.

I would oppose vigorously a mosque near my place, not only because of the god awful noise it emits, but because I simply do not want it.

Just because you oppose something doesn't mean you hate all of it - the only thing you can do is ascribe such things to another unless they admit it or have a consistent bias shown over time. Put up or shut up, as I say.

Because using the land for which a few thousand people died for the site of any place of worship to religions responsible for the cumulative deaths of millions and stagnation of progress is not only an insult to human nature, but is a vindication of every crime associated with religion and it's acolytes.

Look. The religion didn't kill anyone. Religions can not kill people. People who follow a religion can kill people, but the religion itself can not.

When the symptoms of the disease are synonymous with the disease by sheer volume and predictability, it becomes a fair approximation to argue that religion does kill.

It most certainly does kill parts of logic by blinding it's followers with illogical statements.

Would you propose setting up a shrine to Pol Pot near the site of his last major massacre?

Would you oppose to a church being built near the Virginia Tech campus because Cho Sung Wi compared himself to Jesus and murdered some students?

Only if he killed magnitudes more people, while espousing that ideology publicly, for a long enough time to make a clear and consistent ideology. I am not one for comparing a small minded psychotic individual who lacked the proper mental care and wasn't heeded seriously with someone who architected the deaths of hundreds of thousands over a significant period of time.

And as with time in consideration, 9/11 compares as in near instantaneous time of deaths compared with the casual reigns of mass murderers like Pol Pot.

Seriously, get a grip on magnitudes - compare mass murders with mass murders of similar size.

Make ground zero a park and a monument, and nothing else.

Oh! I see the problem. You think they are going to build the mosque on top of Ground Zero. They aren't.

Near or at, it is close enough. And they have demonstrated no pressing need for it, so why not somewhere else, a few blocks away?

Demonstrate their "need" and I'll relent. Else, fuck it.