(August 5, 2010 at 8:39 pm)Tiberius Wrote: The person planning the mosque bought the property which they are building the mosque on. They have all the plans and permissions, and they got them the same way anyone else building a structure would have.
Then that settles it - they got the property and plans - if anyone opposed it, the time for such is long over.
(August 5, 2010 at 8:39 pm)Tiberius Wrote: As far as I am aware, this mosque will not have a call to prayer. It would be pointless in a city such as New York. This mosque will also be a community centre, aimed at strengthening Islamic relations within the city.I've often found that pointlessness and religion go hand in hand.
(August 5, 2010 at 8:39 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Yet the people behind the building of the mosque have been trying for years to strengthen American-Islamic relations. They aren't radical muslims; they do not believe in killing innocent people.
After a while, it feels so poisonous that even the remote touch of certain things brings up bad memories and even worse historical occurrences.
(August 5, 2010 at 8:39 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Yet this isn't a shrine dedicated to mass murderers. This is a community centre dedicated to Islamic worship, and strengthening relations in the city. Your comparison is a pathetic one.
Historically, building shrines and places of worship on top of the charred or destroyed remains of a previous temple or monument is a vindication of the aggressors religion. I seem to be a little sensitive to history here, and the parallels are nothing but unsettling.
(August 5, 2010 at 8:39 pm)Tiberius Wrote:Quote:Near or at, it is close enough. And they have demonstrated no pressing need for it, so why not somewhere else, a few blocks away?...it *is* a few blocks away.
Your reaction to this is the typical knee-jerk "I don't know what I'm talking about because I haven't done any research on this issue" kind. If you listen to the anti-islam activists like Pat Condell all the time, you won't ever get the full story. They intentionally leave facts out, and make stuff up, because as far as they are concerned, getting rid of Islam is more important than being intellectually honest.
As far as I am concerned, Islam is the most poisonous mainstream religion to exist now. And I would like nothing less than to see it marginalized. Infinitely more than anything else.
Cheers - you've found one of my huge biases and hates.
I've despised Islam from the moment I read the Quran and all the shit that happened in a years time (9/11, riots in the middle east over cartoons, female genital mutilation, etc).
You might say blame the people, not the idea, but an idea, while not responsible, resows the fields for continual cultural garbage, however indirectly and should be ever remembered with such.