RE: i need some debate help..
August 7, 2010 at 2:24 am
(This post was last modified: August 7, 2010 at 2:30 am by solja247.)
Quote:E=mc^2
Matter is neither created nor destroyed.
The matter and energy in the universe is the same as when there was the big bang.
QED.
But what started the universe? We know this universe had a starting point and will have an ending point, so what started the universe?
Currently it is much logical to say God started the big bang, in fact, it is much more logical at the moment to believe in God or gods starting the universe and fine tuning so that life could exist (and that elements could be created). However, atheists are just saying, 'Well, you just wait theists we are going to find something that answers all this!'
Thats a big assumption.
Anyways, you are supposed to say I dont know how the universe started or how the energy/matter came into existence.
Quote:Your evangelical friend likely assumes that God is infinite, so why would he need proof of energy being infinite if he accepts God as being infinite?
In fact, by assuming the world had to be started by a finite First Cause that likely is infinite itself, they are adding an extra complicated step to explain the existence of the world. Occam's Razor would have you shave off unnecessary leaps in logic. So it's more consistent to assume that this universe in one form another has always existed. It's unnecessary to assume we have to go a step further and complicate matters with a god.
How so? I didnt see how you got to your conclusion?
How does adding a God or gods complicate things? Wouldnt it uncomplicate things?
Think about it, currently, anything that follows the laws of nature has a cause for its existence, only something outside the laws of nature does not need a reason for its existence.
So which one is more complicated God or something that goes against the laws of nature?
