i need some debate help..

[Darwinian]

Logic and our current understanding of the laws of nature.

Our current understanding of the laws of nature fall apart when we get back to the moment of the big bang and if you've ever studied quantum mechanics then you will also know that standard logic and intuition are not much use either.

Why do you think that because we don't know what the conditions where that caused our universe to come into existence it therefore follows that it must have been created by a magical entity called God and further, the God of the Bible?

Why could not the universe have always existed in some form or another and the universe we currently see and study is simply one phase of a continuous cycle? Surely this scenario is far more plausible and logical.

Maybe I will be proven wrong (and the many other theists and deists who adhere to the uncaused, caused) but at the moment, as I have said, atheists can only hope in the future that the logical and reasonable place to put God will be explained away by science.

I'm sure that most atheists couldn't care less if God can be explained away by science or not. All physicists, cosmologists etc. are interested in is how the Universe works and where it came from and where it's going.

Perhaps we'll never find out where it all came from. Perhaps it didn't come from anywhere because if time and space came into existence with the big bang there would have been no where or when for it to have come from. So in this case the question, what happened before time itself, doesn't apply and cannot make sense.

A complicated multiverse would mean a complicated designer?

That's a very anthropic statement and begs the question, who created the designer? And if the answer is that the designer has always existed or somehow he exists outside time and space then why not save yourself a step and keep things as simple and logical as possible by saying that the conditions for our 'current' Universe have always existed or exist in a state that is outside the normal laws of space and time.

You really don't need some complex, omnipotent and omniscient entity to explain anything and the addition of one must purely be for anthropic reasons. You seem to be starting with the premise that God exists and then you go out looking for him and then, not surprisingly you find him in all sorts of odd little places that science has yet to fully explain. The trouble with that method is that you could apply it to almost anything from a god, gods, FSM, IPU, The Great Green Arkleseezure, A multi-dimensional alien race or whatever.