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Anyone want to try to tackle this moron's OP/ED?
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RE: Anyone want to try to tackle this moron's OP/ED?
Quote:However, the existence of evil turns out to be a bigger problem for atheists to explain than for theists. The kind of evil Dawkins and the rest of the civilized world abhor doesn't disprove God—it disproves atheism. . . . Well, atheists can't have it both ways. Either evil exists or it doesn't. If it doesn't exist, then atheists should stop complaining about the "evil" things religious people have done because they haven't really done any. They've just been "dancing to the music" of their DNA. If atheism is true, all behaviors are merely a matter of preference anyway. On the other hand, if evil actually does exist, then atheists have an even bigger problem. The existence of evil actually establishes the existence of God. . . . We could put it this way: The shadows prove the sunshine. There can be sunshine without shadows, but there can't be shadows without sunshine. In other words, there can be good without evil, but there can't be evil without good.
http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/4792...es-atheism


Ah, yes evil is the flip side of good, but good and evil are human constructs. Neither requires a supernatural being.

Quote:C.S. Lewis was once an atheist who thought evil disproved God. He later realized he was stealing from God in order to argue against Him. He wrote, "[As an atheist] my argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust?"

Yes people have an idea of crooked and straight and good and evil. But I don't think crooked and straight have much to do with god, because they are human ideas. To argue that because there is evil god exists is silly. Like crooked and straight, good and evil are human constructs. We have an idea what good is because we have evolved as social beings. Hence we imagined a god with the idea of good and evil.

We know evil is a social problem for human beings. A really omnipotent god could have eliminated evil. Yet we still have evil. Therefore, if there is a god, he is not a good god.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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RE: Anyone want to try to tackle this moron's OP/ED? - by Jenny A - January 20, 2015 at 9:44 pm
Anyone want to try to tackle this moron's OP/ED? - by KUSA - January 20, 2015 at 10:28 pm

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