(August 8, 2010 at 4:05 am)Edward the Theist Wrote:(August 8, 2010 at 2:18 am)ABierman1986 Wrote: BTW @Edwardthe theist; the discussion of how gravity works and why energy comes in quantums may not be fully understood, but it is certainly much farther along than saying we don't have a clue. Atheists don't argue to put something in place of a creator, the purpose is to believe what is observable and rational and not to give in at difficulties in understanding and ascribe the solution to a supernatural entity. To convince a believer one only needs to convince them to finally use a critical and skeptical mind on their beliefs, this will at the least lead to agnosticism if not atheism. It's convincing them to do this that is the hard part.
Well, good luck with that. You still have to compete with Jesus Christ.
I don't think compete is quite the right phrasing, as you say, you can't compete with the belief of a savior, all you can ever do is try to engage in critical discussion and hope it turns inward.
My religion is the understanding of my world. My god is the energy that underlies it all. My worship is my constant endeavor to unravel the mysteries of my religion. 
