(August 9, 2010 at 6:21 am)AnunZi Wrote: You really don’t have ANY understanding of what atheism is do you?
I'm so sick of hearing that. I've been debating atheism vs. theism for...ever I think. I've probably read more atheists manifestos than most in here. All you're saying when you say that is, "No matter what you say or think or speculate, or prove, it won't work because I'm going to keep changing my definition of atheism every time you get close to scoring a point."
I'll tell you what I think an atheist is, honestly.
I think most atheists don't believe in Christianity. They don't like the power it has in society, and they don't like the ignorance of bible-believers who choose to "believe" rather than to "know" anything. They really don't give two hoots about Islam or Judaism, because they basically think those types are too far away and irrelevant to our culture to worry about. Buddhists they don't even think about, because basically, Western Buddhism is a more of a philosophy anyway and it's pretty atheistic when it's just a philosophy.
The old atheists basically wanted sexual freedom from the Church. The young atheists basically want to be counter-cultural and defiant. Again, it all goes back to resenting an unenlightened bunch of idiots having social power.
Atheists don't believe in god, but most atheists do not go anywhere near the implications of that. Most atheists only think about not believing in religious gods, they don't ponder what a world of chaos and natural selection really means. Some do, but most don't. Most atheists are very hypocritical: they hate the church but abide by all the precepts of its moral code. They think the same moral code would exist in an atheist world.
Most atheists pretend to be smarter than they are. They don't study math or science, but they like technology. They like evolution, and ignore its shortcomings. They simply refuse to talk about the universe before the big bang. That's it. No questions asked about the universe before Plank's constant. They do not talk about atheist politics, they don't talk about atheist workplaces, because in those situations, they are hoping people will not look upon other people as purposeless matter radiating quirky useless consciousness. They hope for every one to be endowed by their Creator with certain unailienable rights.
Basically, that atheist wants to be smarter, and more rebellious. They don't believe in God, but they don't really bother to think about any concept of God other than the Christian God.
Most atheists are not any more immoral than anyone else, but they aren't any better either. They get through their day without having to worry about the meaning of their life, and they feel a bit more superior than most because they know that most of the people around them are theists of the Christian sort. That's how they keep their self-esteem up. The geek-chic glasses just seem to help with that.
By all mean, correct me if I'm wrong.