RE: Agnostic: a pointless term?
January 27, 2015 at 11:18 am
(This post was last modified: January 27, 2015 at 11:26 am by Thumpalumpacus.)
(January 27, 2015 at 4:25 am)robvalue Wrote:(January 27, 2015 at 12:10 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: Yes, different people have different definitions of god(s). That doesn't mean that the concept is undefined, it just means that it has multiple definitions.Sure. This makes the straightforward question, "Do you believe in god" a nonsensical one because it could refer to anything from a trash can lid to omni super hero man. That's what makes atheism so hilarious. Even though the question is nonsensical, I can be extremely confident that my answer is going to be "no", regardless of the description given when I ask for it. (Unless they say it is a trash can lid etc)
Absolutely, and that's why when someone asks me if I believe in god, my answer is "which one?". I've not seen one definition of god which I find very meaningful, and not one that I lend any credence. But I don't think it's accurate to say that it's undefined -- indeed, one of the key arguments of atheism is that the very plethora of deities (and definitions) undermines the truth claims of all of them.
Having said that, I can't say that I know for a fact that there is no sort of god. My own sense of integrity demands of me the admission that I could be wrong.
(January 27, 2015 at 12:23 am)Blackout Wrote: My biggest problem with the topic of emotions is when people confuse feelings with emotions. There is a difference. By chance I know it due to highschool psychology classes (nothing to detailed, but still useful)
Other than that, I don't know what we could do in such a thread other than giving personal testimony of our everyday emotions as "believable" (assuming everyone's telling the truth) proof of emotions existing
I'm using emotions and feelings interchangeably, as the colloquial allows; I'm not using psychological jargon, because I'm not a psychologist.
No matter what you wish to call them, the fact is that they can be both undefined and still present, which was my point.