(January 29, 2015 at 8:25 pm)IATIA Wrote:(January 29, 2015 at 4:18 pm)Godschild Wrote: Disagree, God is not present within everything and there is no where in scripture that says He is. God is omnipresent by knowing what's going on everywhere at all times. Meaning nothing escapes His knowing and knowing in no way means complete control nor predestination.
om·ni·pres·ent adjective \-zənt\
: present in all places at all times
Jeremiah 23–24
23 “Am I a God who is near,” declares the Lord,
Being near is not within.
Quote:“And not a God far off?
This means God can be found when one seeks, prayers are heard, God does not abandon.
Quote:24 “Can a man hide himself in hiding places So I do not see him?”
How is this in any way to be considered God being within anything, let lone everything.
Quote: declares the Lord. “Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?” declares the Lord.
This in no way mans God is in and or within everything or anyone.
Now to the real meaning of these verses Mr. CherryPicker. You should have started at verse 21, but even better verse 18 of chapter 23.
False prophets were telling the people all kinds of things that were not true and certainly not from God. They say these things were from God, He was angry with them for lying and using His name in vain. Those verses you posted were God's response to them (false prophets) that there is nowhere in His creation they can hide, they will not be able to escape His punishment.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
