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Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell?

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RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell?

February 6, 2015 at 7:26 pm

(February 6, 2015 at 7:18 am)h4ym4n Wrote:
(February 5, 2015 at 4:17 pm)Godschild Wrote: Let me lay this out simply for you.
-If god is present in our future (for example.. is omni-present-), then that future - from some point of view- is already actualized. We are progressing towards it, it is determined.
-If god has knowledge of our future states (for example.....is omni-scient), then those future states -from some point of view- are already actualized. We are progressing towards them, they are predetermined.
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Rhythm said that dummy.

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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.

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Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by IanHulett - January 26, 2015 at 2:48 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Alex K - January 26, 2015 at 2:52 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by IanHulett - January 26, 2015 at 3:06 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Alex K - January 26, 2015 at 5:09 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Faith No More - January 26, 2015 at 3:22 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by The Grand Nudger - January 26, 2015 at 3:30 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by dyresand - January 26, 2015 at 3:39 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Dystopia - January 26, 2015 at 3:50 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Godschild - January 27, 2015 at 12:17 am

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 27, 2015 at 5:21 am

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Godschild - January 27, 2015 at 12:17 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Alex K - January 27, 2015 at 12:21 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Godschild - January 27, 2015 at 12:49 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by IATIA - January 27, 2015 at 7:48 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by robvalue - January 27, 2015 at 4:34 am

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by h4ym4n - January 27, 2015 at 6:16 am

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Godschild - January 27, 2015 at 10:58 am

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by h4ym4n - January 27, 2015 at 11:22 am

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Alex K - January 27, 2015 at 11:27 am

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Godschild - January 27, 2015 at 12:39 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Creed of Heresy - January 27, 2015 at 6:42 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Faith No More - January 27, 2015 at 7:49 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Godschild - January 28, 2015 at 4:37 am

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Creed of Heresy - January 27, 2015 at 6:27 am

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by h4ym4n - January 27, 2015 at 12:46 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by h4ym4n - January 27, 2015 at 1:07 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Alex K - January 27, 2015 at 3:17 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Godschild - January 28, 2015 at 2:23 am

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by The Grand Nudger - January 27, 2015 at 3:24 pm

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RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Faith No More - January 27, 2015 at 7:57 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by professor - January 27, 2015 at 7:59 pm

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RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by The Grand Nudger - January 27, 2015 at 8:00 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by IATIA - January 27, 2015 at 8:05 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by The Grand Nudger - January 27, 2015 at 8:49 pm

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RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by The Grand Nudger - January 27, 2015 at 10:28 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Tonus - January 28, 2015 at 8:11 am

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Faith No More - January 28, 2015 at 12:28 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Tonus - January 28, 2015 at 1:43 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by robvalue - January 28, 2015 at 2:39 am

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RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Godschild - January 28, 2015 at 7:51 pm

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RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by h4ym4n - January 28, 2015 at 8:12 am

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RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by h4ym4n - February 2, 2015 at 9:07 am

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Godschild - February 2, 2015 at 3:03 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by h4ym4n - February 2, 2015 at 6:33 pm

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RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by robvalue - January 31, 2015 at 9:04 am

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RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2015 at 11:21 am

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by robvalue - February 2, 2015 at 6:42 am

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RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Godschild - February 5, 2015 at 4:17 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by h4ym4n - February 6, 2015 at 7:18 am

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Godschild - February 6, 2015 at 7:26 pm

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by h4ym4n - February 7, 2015 at 5:44 am

RE: Does Free Will actually exist? Is there a way to tell? - by Tonus - February 6, 2015 at 8:26 am

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