RE: William Lane Craig continues to desperately defend the indefensible.
February 8, 2015 at 7:19 pm
So I listened to the whole debate. Unfortunately, Daniel Came didn't come prepared for the debate. It took him a long time to develop a counter argument. Other than it's an argument from ignorance, the argument is a result of selection bias and a rehashed version of "where do the laws of logic come from" argument.
Daniel Came eventually pointed out the selection bias that Craig was using when math only applies to physical science. Came did not include how mathematics has a lot more variability than what we apply to physical science. Scientist apply a selected small subset of mathematics not all mathematics. So it isn't as amazing as Craig makes it sound. It's like being amazed that you can make a circle out of puddy where the circle represents physical science and the puddy is mathematics.
This argument is also just a rehashed version of where do the laws of logic come from. Mathematics is nothing more than given some axioms, what patterns and operations can be found using the laws of logic. Craig makes it sound like mathematics is something beyond this definition. The laws of logic do not point to a higher intelligence as they can the inherent rules of our universe.
Daniel Came eventually pointed out the selection bias that Craig was using when math only applies to physical science. Came did not include how mathematics has a lot more variability than what we apply to physical science. Scientist apply a selected small subset of mathematics not all mathematics. So it isn't as amazing as Craig makes it sound. It's like being amazed that you can make a circle out of puddy where the circle represents physical science and the puddy is mathematics.
This argument is also just a rehashed version of where do the laws of logic come from. Mathematics is nothing more than given some axioms, what patterns and operations can be found using the laws of logic. Craig makes it sound like mathematics is something beyond this definition. The laws of logic do not point to a higher intelligence as they can the inherent rules of our universe.