Christians, where does your allegiance lie? - Jesus Christ or Bible

[emilynghiem]

As the title says, assuming you are a Christian who believes Jesus (Christ) is the only way to salvation (Yes, Unitarians don't believe Jesus as God and Jesus as the only means to God).

So for argument sake, Imagine if Jesus (yes the real one) who frequently reveals himself to born-again Christians, tells you that you were doing it all wrong as in the bible is not his word.

Would you:
1) disregard this revelation as an hallucination?
2) ditch the bible?
3) consider this as Satan trying to deceive you by dressing up as Jesus?

I already believe that Christ Jesus means Restorative Justice which fulfills any law it is applied to whether secular humanist or naturalist, Constitutionalist, Buddhist etc.

I happen to live by natural laws and use the Constitution more than anything to work with different people of all faiths, which I see as protected under the Constitution.

I was using the Bible to relate with other Christians, but that blew up in my face recently, and I'm back to using natural laws since we couldn't agree on the Bible which only works if both people receive the other as an equal believer. I was rejected as a Universalist nonchristian or antichristian, so that didn't work anymore.

Everyone I know wants their free speech, right to petition and due process to defend their beliefs, so I am back to using natural laws and enforcing those which I find to be more universal.

I would only use the Bible if both people or all people agree they are all believers and work within the same context. If not it is disastrous.

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Again in the book of revelation, this is exactly how the anti Christ presents. He fools EVERYONE who does not know the God of the bible, because he can do many of the works of Christ. But he is not Christ.

So Again, I serve the God of the bible, and 'god' who does not follow the bible is the devil in disguise.

Once again, you evade my question with such ease.
Let me simply this for you a little bit. The Real Jesus Christ
(The Son
The Son of God
His only begotten Son
The Son of the Father
The only begotten of the Father
The only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father
The first-born of every creature
His own Son
A Son given
One Son
His dear Son
The Son of the Highest
The Son of the Blessed
The Almighty, which is, and which was, and which is to come
The Creator of all things
The Upholder of all things
The Everlasting Father
The Beginning
The Beginning and the Ending
The Alpha and the Omega
The First and the Last
The Life
Eternal Life
That Eternal Life which was with the Father
He that liveth
The Man Christ Jesus
A Man approved of God
The Second Man, the Lord from heaven
The Son of Man
The Son of Abraham
The Son of David
The Son of Mary
The Son of Joseph
The Seed of the Woman
The Seed of Abraham
Of the Seed of David
)
comes to you and says that the version of the bible you are using has been mistranslated over the ages and you are doing it all wrong by following this version to the word.

Who or what will you believe? This Real Jesus Christ or the mistranslated version of the bible.

Dear Forsaken:
A. I think the people who have gone through what you say are LIKE the Messianic Jews who finally understand that the Christian Jesus
IS the right meaning and the way they were taught before was NOT right.

B. the key factor I see in whether they receive or reject is
FORGIVENESS

if the person bringing this to them does NOT forgive them, then the audience tends to reject and not forgive the differences.

If the messenger and the audience are BOTH forgiving, then they
can see this is the right interpretation and spirit, and the previous
way of teaching it was not.

C. the way I explain it, the OT is about the letter of the law and retributive justice which lends itself to ANTICHRIST or "retribution" by fear and ill will, inflicting judgment punishment and rejection. So this reaps more rejection and retribution which is ANTICHRIST.

The NT is about the spirit of the law and RESTORATIVE JUSTICE which is Christ Jesus and brings new life, restoring relations by mutual forgiveness and correction, not rejection and punishment.

So, in fact, it is the purpose of Christianity to teach the Right type of JUSTICE.

You get the Justice you give: so if you live by the sword you die by it, if you wreak retributive justice then you get this in return

but if you live by forgiving others so you will be forgiven,
this is Restorative Justice with mercy that brings peace.

so yes, to answer your question, those who realize they have been teaching the Bible wrong in the spirit of unforgiveness and retributive justice will be brought to understand and replace this with Restorative Justice that fulfills the laws and corrects misinterpretations.

The key difference is forgiveness. Where people can FORGIVE that this has been taught wrong in the past, then it can be replaced with true Justice that brings freedom and peace to all people by agreeing in truth.