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Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism
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RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism
(February 12, 2015 at 3:54 pm)Dystopia Wrote: I'm a strong/gnostic atheist (or positive atheist) - I assert there are no gods. I've already explained this at TTA and I've explained it here in the past. Which part of this is confusing? I lack belief but I also believe there's no gods (and supernatural for that purpose, though that's not atheism). I know there's no gods the same way I know gravity exists

It's not confusing to me or (I'd wager) anyone else on the forum, I'm just shooting the breeze wondering about another term, if it exists. If a-theism is just a response to theistic claims ("I don't accept the claim god exists"), how exactly would you use that definition in "gnostic atheism"? "I know I don't accept the claim -god exists-"?

Even in your post you said "I lack belief but I also believe there's no gods", and to me those are two separate things. The former, atheism, and the latter, a term that I've never seen someone define/create.

Is it necessary to have a term for the assertion of the opposite claim? Nah, most people can understand what you mean when you say 'strong atheist' or 'gnostic atheist' or what have you, I'm more just wondering.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Dystopia - February 12, 2015 at 2:31 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 2:34 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Napoléon - February 12, 2015 at 2:36 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 2:38 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by dyresand - February 12, 2015 at 2:38 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Napoléon - February 12, 2015 at 2:39 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Dystopia - February 12, 2015 at 2:46 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 2:47 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by FatAndFaithless - February 12, 2015 at 2:50 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Dystopia - February 12, 2015 at 2:51 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by FatAndFaithless - February 12, 2015 at 2:53 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Dystopia - February 12, 2015 at 2:54 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 2:53 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by FatAndFaithless - February 12, 2015 at 2:55 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 2:57 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by LastPoet - February 12, 2015 at 3:03 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 3:06 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by FatAndFaithless - February 12, 2015 at 3:10 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 3:14 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Dystopia - February 12, 2015 at 3:14 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by FatAndFaithless - February 12, 2015 at 3:21 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 3:15 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Dystopia - February 12, 2015 at 3:18 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 3:19 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Pizza - February 12, 2015 at 3:23 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by FatAndFaithless - February 12, 2015 at 3:24 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 3:25 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by FatAndFaithless - February 12, 2015 at 3:26 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 3:28 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by FatAndFaithless - February 12, 2015 at 3:30 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 3:31 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Pizza - February 12, 2015 at 3:35 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 3:36 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Pizza - February 12, 2015 at 3:44 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Pizza - February 12, 2015 at 3:49 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by FatAndFaithless - February 12, 2015 at 3:37 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 3:38 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by MysticKnight - February 12, 2015 at 3:43 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by FatAndFaithless - February 12, 2015 at 3:45 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 3:44 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 3:52 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Pizza - February 12, 2015 at 4:33 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Dystopia - February 12, 2015 at 3:54 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by FatAndFaithless - February 12, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by wiploc - February 26, 2015 at 9:20 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 3:57 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 4:03 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Dystopia - February 12, 2015 at 4:17 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 4:21 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Dystopia - February 12, 2015 at 4:22 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 4:23 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by LastPoet - February 12, 2015 at 4:24 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 4:25 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by LastPoet - February 12, 2015 at 4:39 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 4:36 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Pizza - February 12, 2015 at 5:03 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by FatAndFaithless - February 12, 2015 at 5:06 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 4:41 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by LastPoet - February 12, 2015 at 4:48 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 4:53 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by LastPoet - February 12, 2015 at 4:55 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 4:57 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 5:08 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Pizza - February 12, 2015 at 6:24 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Dystopia - February 26, 2015 at 8:38 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Whateverist - February 28, 2015 at 9:38 am
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Delysid - March 1, 2015 at 2:21 am
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Whateverist - March 1, 2015 at 3:46 am
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - March 1, 2015 at 4:27 am
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by wiploc - March 1, 2015 at 12:03 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Dystopia - March 1, 2015 at 10:03 am
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Norman Humann - March 1, 2015 at 10:09 am
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Whateverist - March 1, 2015 at 12:15 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - March 2, 2015 at 3:35 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Dystopia - March 1, 2015 at 10:16 am
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Norman Humann - March 1, 2015 at 10:35 am
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Cyberman - March 1, 2015 at 11:19 am
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Spooky - March 1, 2015 at 11:06 am
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by One Above All - March 1, 2015 at 12:06 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Delysid - March 2, 2015 at 2:29 pm
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by wiploc - March 3, 2015 at 3:04 am
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Delysid - March 3, 2015 at 4:04 am
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - March 3, 2015 at 3:16 am
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Whateverist - March 3, 2015 at 3:43 am
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - March 3, 2015 at 4:12 am
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Delysid - March 3, 2015 at 5:27 am
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - March 3, 2015 at 4:23 am
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Whateverist - March 3, 2015 at 8:07 am
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - March 3, 2015 at 8:36 am
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by Whateverist - March 3, 2015 at 11:46 am
RE: Enlightened [Elitist] Agnosticism - by robvalue - March 3, 2015 at 11:48 am

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