William Lane Craig continues to desperately defend the indefensible.

[Natachan]

Absolutely, I began to exist, you began to exist, a tree began to exist, any sound begins to exist, any feeling begins to exist, the vast majority of scientists believe the universe began to exist, and with it all matter and energy. You've not answered the question though, to describe why i should believe anything can begin to exist without a cause.

Nice sidestepping. That isn't what was meant. A tree doesn't begin to exist out of nothing. It is a reconstitution of existing matter and energy. Same with people. You did not come to be out of nothing. You were formed from existing proteins that were reorganized to form you.

And as to the vast majority of scientist believing the universe began to exist, the jury is still out. Some believe that. Some data indicates a past-infinite universe (I like that theory).

And yes, things DO pop in and out of existence without apparent cause. It happens all the time on the quantum scale. It's now fairly well researched and documented.

We're dealing with likelihoods here, what is most reasonable. Its true that neither of us know, but we can discuss where the evidence leads - to a beginning of the universe and a necessarily existing prime mover.

I'm going to for the moment pretend I accept the premise that the universe had a finite beginning. Now I'm going to ask the question that pisses off all my teachers when they say something must be so (ask a differential equTions teacher this, it's funny). Why is there a necessarily existing prime mover? What reason do you have for this? Why must this force have intent? Why must this thing exist? And "because I say so" is not a valid response.

But its not just "i'll believe in God no matter what you say!", it is "I believe in God because of the evidence of the Holy Spirit within me, which trumps whatever you can tell me."

A question I've asked theists on here before and have received no good reaponse is, how do you know this experience of the Holy Spirit is credible? How do you differentiate it from hallucination or self-delusion? Both of these are extremely powerful and not to be taken lightly.