RE: Deism: I don't get it
February 13, 2015 at 3:45 pm
(This post was last modified: February 13, 2015 at 3:46 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(February 13, 2015 at 1:15 pm)Lek Wrote:(February 12, 2015 at 3:06 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: ... he wrote, even as he avoided answering my question.
Answer my question: what is your conception of love, such that fatal diseases and natural disasters express it? Would you wish a disease upon your own child?
No. I wouldn't wish those on my children[...]
Of course not. Why not?
That's right -- because it's an evil thing to do.
(February 13, 2015 at 1:15 pm)Lek Wrote: and I don't think God wishes those upon us. That is the way he made the world, but that's not the whole picture.
I'm pretty sure that, being omnipotent, he knew cancer would be painful, that mudslides would kill the innocent, and so on.
(February 13, 2015 at 1:15 pm)Lek Wrote: If you're talking about God, you have to look at the whole picture from the beginning to the end.
I have. Any being who would inflict tortuous deaths on innocents is not loving.
(February 13, 2015 at 1:15 pm)Lek Wrote: God's love encompasses our lives from the beginning into eternity. He allows us to choose our own ends.
My son's mother didn't choose her breast cancer. Go fuck yourself.
(February 13, 2015 at 1:15 pm)Lek Wrote: Plus he's there to help us through whatever we experience here.
Nonsense. He puts hurtful and even fatal experiences in front of us, and regularly ignores prayers to changes his behavior.
(February 13, 2015 at 1:15 pm)Lek Wrote: Jesus also didn't put himself above us in that he experienced the same things which we experience. What hurts isn't always bad, and what feels good isn't always good.
Explain to me how cancer is good. Explain to me how killing everyone in history for the sins of Adam and Eve is good.
No, your god is evil, and the fact that you claim he loves us is evidence that you either have no real conception of what love is -- or evidence that you've got a bad case of Stockholm Syndrome.
