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Deism: I don't get it
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RE: Deism: I don't get it
(February 13, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Lek Wrote: Christians also adopted the word hades to describe the place of the waiting.
They adopted more than that. The whole concept of the afterlife, faith-based salvation and the intercessor with the divine came from pagan concepts merged with Judaism. All three were foreign to Judaism and the very last one, downright blasphemous. It's really no wonder the Jews largely rejected Christianity. The whole Trinity notion is a crude attempt to have it both ways, the pagan divine intercessor with strict Jewish monotheism.

Quote:The old testament Jews didn't have a clear concept of life after death, but sheol was no less the state of waiting that christians ascribe to hades.
Sheol literally meant "the grave". Early books in the OT make it clear that you die and are no more. Later books, admittedly before Christianity, started to flirt with fuzzy notions of the underworld, alluded to when King Saul has a medium contact Samuel from beyond the grave. Most likely, the Greeks and Egyptians had their influence before Christianity morphed into a new religion.
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Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - December 4, 2014 at 10:09 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Chad32 - December 4, 2014 at 10:30 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - December 4, 2014 at 10:52 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Angrboda - December 4, 2014 at 2:40 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by abaris - December 4, 2014 at 11:02 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - December 4, 2014 at 11:07 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Jenny A - December 4, 2014 at 11:23 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Tonus - December 4, 2014 at 11:28 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - December 4, 2014 at 11:41 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by abaris - December 4, 2014 at 2:21 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by DeistPaladin - December 4, 2014 at 2:46 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by FatAndFaithless - December 4, 2014 at 2:52 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by DeistPaladin - December 4, 2014 at 5:39 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Cato - December 4, 2014 at 3:31 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - December 4, 2014 at 4:02 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by abaris - December 4, 2014 at 4:33 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Rob216 - December 4, 2014 at 7:21 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by bennyboy - December 4, 2014 at 8:05 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Lek - February 11, 2015 at 2:41 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Grandizer - February 11, 2015 at 7:50 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Lek - February 11, 2015 at 8:03 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Mudhammam - February 12, 2015 at 3:33 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by MysticKnight - December 4, 2014 at 8:36 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Cinjin - February 9, 2015 at 11:21 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by bennyboy - February 10, 2015 at 1:57 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - February 10, 2015 at 3:49 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by emilynghiem - February 10, 2015 at 6:25 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - February 11, 2015 at 3:25 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Lek - February 11, 2015 at 2:34 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Grandizer - February 11, 2015 at 2:40 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by DeistPaladin - February 11, 2015 at 6:02 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Lek - February 11, 2015 at 7:14 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Thumpalumpacus - February 12, 2015 at 3:07 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by FatAndFaithless - February 11, 2015 at 2:37 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by JesusHChrist - February 11, 2015 at 2:52 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Dystopia - February 11, 2015 at 2:55 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by dyresand - February 11, 2015 at 3:31 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - February 11, 2015 at 6:03 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Chad32 - February 11, 2015 at 8:28 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Lek - February 11, 2015 at 8:39 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Cinjin - February 12, 2015 at 1:39 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Spooky - February 12, 2015 at 8:33 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Lek - February 12, 2015 at 12:35 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Thumpalumpacus - February 12, 2015 at 3:06 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by DeistPaladin - February 12, 2015 at 5:40 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Lek - February 13, 2015 at 1:15 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Mudhammam - February 13, 2015 at 3:03 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by DeistPaladin - February 13, 2015 at 3:21 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Lek - February 13, 2015 at 3:35 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by DeistPaladin - February 13, 2015 at 3:45 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Lek - February 13, 2015 at 5:04 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by DeistPaladin - February 13, 2015 at 5:27 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Lek - February 13, 2015 at 8:06 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by DeistPaladin - February 13, 2015 at 8:15 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Lek - February 13, 2015 at 8:53 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by DeistPaladin - February 13, 2015 at 9:00 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Thumpalumpacus - February 14, 2015 at 2:36 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Cinjin - February 16, 2015 at 4:40 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by JesusHChrist - February 16, 2015 at 4:52 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by IATIA - February 13, 2015 at 8:17 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Mudhammam - February 13, 2015 at 8:22 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Thumpalumpacus - February 14, 2015 at 12:24 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by dyresand - February 14, 2015 at 12:37 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Mudhammam - February 13, 2015 at 7:38 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Thumpalumpacus - February 13, 2015 at 3:45 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Lek - February 13, 2015 at 5:08 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Thumpalumpacus - February 13, 2015 at 7:32 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Mudhammam - February 12, 2015 at 8:17 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Chad32 - February 11, 2015 at 8:42 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Lek - February 11, 2015 at 8:52 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Spooky - February 11, 2015 at 8:59 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by dyresand - February 11, 2015 at 9:26 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by DeistPaladin - February 11, 2015 at 9:44 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Pizza - February 11, 2015 at 10:49 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Chad32 - February 11, 2015 at 10:38 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by bennyboy - February 11, 2015 at 11:17 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by DeistPaladin - February 11, 2015 at 11:53 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 2:49 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 3:11 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Thumpalumpacus - February 12, 2015 at 3:27 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - February 12, 2015 at 3:33 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - February 13, 2015 at 4:03 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Chad32 - February 13, 2015 at 5:06 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Chad32 - February 13, 2015 at 5:14 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Chad32 - February 13, 2015 at 9:54 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by dyresand - February 13, 2015 at 9:55 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Mudhammam - February 13, 2015 at 9:30 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - February 14, 2015 at 12:20 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - February 14, 2015 at 4:02 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Norman Humann - February 14, 2015 at 5:02 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - February 14, 2015 at 6:09 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Norman Humann - February 14, 2015 at 6:17 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - February 14, 2015 at 6:22 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Norman Humann - February 14, 2015 at 6:24 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - February 14, 2015 at 6:26 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Norman Humann - February 14, 2015 at 6:28 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - February 14, 2015 at 6:30 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Norman Humann - February 14, 2015 at 6:36 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - February 14, 2015 at 6:39 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Norman Humann - February 14, 2015 at 6:41 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - February 14, 2015 at 6:45 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Norman Humann - February 14, 2015 at 6:51 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - February 14, 2015 at 6:58 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Norman Humann - February 14, 2015 at 7:00 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - February 14, 2015 at 8:09 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Norman Humann - February 14, 2015 at 8:12 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - February 14, 2015 at 8:26 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Norman Humann - February 14, 2015 at 8:35 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - February 14, 2015 at 8:39 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by Norman Humann - February 14, 2015 at 8:40 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - February 14, 2015 at 9:06 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by IATIA - February 14, 2015 at 11:27 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - February 15, 2015 at 10:37 am
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by robvalue - February 16, 2015 at 4:57 pm
RE: Deism: I don't get it - by emilynghiem - February 16, 2015 at 5:55 pm

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