RE: The Big Bang is evidence for the existence of the supernatural
August 17, 2010 at 3:34 am
(This post was last modified: August 29, 2010 at 1:11 am by TheDarkestOfAngels.)
(August 17, 2010 at 2:53 am)rybak303 Wrote: Furthermore. . . . .
A few pesky details:
1) No one can honestly say what happens prior to the big bang, ergo there are no conclusions to be drawn off of no knowledge. Thus all of your conclusions based on anything prior to a certain point in the big bang is based on absolutely nothing.
2) The only thing anyone really knows about time with empirical evidence to back it up about time are the anedotes of what the theory of relativity has to say about it. Other than that, there are some baseless theories about the nature of time, but the nature of time is otherwise completely unknown. Ergo, all of your conclusions based on when time begins or ends is based on nothing.
3) Our universe in the sense as we understand it does begin at a few fleeting moments during the time it expanded wildly before it expanded during an inflationary period in which it exploded at FTL speeds. The universe as we understand it will end, but the matter in which it will end is entirely up for debate. However, the nature of this universe prior to the earliest understandable point in time and after one of a variety of possible endings to the unverse says nothing above or below those points and any conclusions based on those things are invalid.
4) Humans are not seporate or distinct from nature in any provable fashion. We are a part of nature regardless of how many atom bombs we drop or whatever new toy we make or artificial organs we put in ourselves.
5) Free will, such that it is, also does not make us distinct from nature.
6) Your conclusion has nothing to do with anything. Supernaturalism is not provable by any science and has not been shown to exist at all.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan