As Dawkins has said though. sometimes "rocking the boat" can be the right thing to do.
Good vid btw - just because it shows that the more moderate types often basically just cherry pick. And Dawkins always schools the opposition (IMO and in my experience) in debates vs the religious. Basically because they have no decent arguments for God. Or any evidence. None whatsoever it seems to me.
Tony Benn would neither admit to cherry picking OR a belief in God but still represent himself as a Christian when he was clearly just choosing the nice bits. And he kept talking about the culture and the teachings. It seems to me (on the impression I get from 9 minutes of video) that he's just interested in the bits he likes. Not the horrid bits.
What about the evidence? What about the truth? Evidence is the path to truth not merely liking something enough that you commit to it and consider it true. If something's unpleasant that doesn't mean its untrue and if something's very attractive that obviously does NOT mean that it IS true. Truth and desire are two different things. You cannot choose what's true in reality.
Reality just is.
So is it true or not? Tony Benn says he doesn't know and he's agnostic Christian perhaps.
But what reasons does he have to believe that are actually evidence based and not just wishful thinking? I wonder
I'd like to hear what he actually considers as evidence and what isn't just wishful thinking and talking about the goodness and ignoring the badness.
Evf
Good vid btw - just because it shows that the more moderate types often basically just cherry pick. And Dawkins always schools the opposition (IMO and in my experience) in debates vs the religious. Basically because they have no decent arguments for God. Or any evidence. None whatsoever it seems to me.
Tony Benn would neither admit to cherry picking OR a belief in God but still represent himself as a Christian when he was clearly just choosing the nice bits. And he kept talking about the culture and the teachings. It seems to me (on the impression I get from 9 minutes of video) that he's just interested in the bits he likes. Not the horrid bits.
What about the evidence? What about the truth? Evidence is the path to truth not merely liking something enough that you commit to it and consider it true. If something's unpleasant that doesn't mean its untrue and if something's very attractive that obviously does NOT mean that it IS true. Truth and desire are two different things. You cannot choose what's true in reality.
Reality just is.
So is it true or not? Tony Benn says he doesn't know and he's agnostic Christian perhaps.
But what reasons does he have to believe that are actually evidence based and not just wishful thinking? I wonder
I'd like to hear what he actually considers as evidence and what isn't just wishful thinking and talking about the goodness and ignoring the badness.
Evf
