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Why do gospel contradictions matter?
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RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter?
Wow! Self delusion on a grand scale:

(February 21, 2015 at 8:40 pm)Wiggy Wrote: Tonus the Bible is a book of wonder. Why is it the greatest selling book of all time and no book even comes close. The bible is the living word and can cut into the soul. You can read it a thousand times and you will always learn something new from it.

You may be right that it's the best selling book of all time. So what? And how many people do you think actually read it? Setting that aside. The number of people who read it has absolutely nothing to do with whether it's true.

(February 21, 2015 at 8:40 pm)Wiggy Wrote: Also if gospels dont supposedly contradict then sceptics would say it was made up and copied.

The gospels do contradict each other. They also contradict what we know about the time period from other sources. Any one who can and does read critically can see this. Many theologians admit it.

(February 21, 2015 at 8:40 pm)Wiggy Wrote: They are eye witness accounts who died for their eye witnes testimony.

Hardly. First of all the "witnesses" spoke Aramaic and were probably mostly illiterate. The Gospels were written in Greek. The traditional names given to them weren't added to the gospels until more more decades after they were first written. And they were written 20 to 60 years after the events described. And they describe events no one could witness, such as a virgin birth (how would a witness know it was a virgin birth?). Jesus was all by himself when tempted by the devil or talking to god in Gethsemane.

And if all of that doesn't convince you, note that Luke actually says he's picking and choosing among gospel narritives for his patron.

(February 21, 2015 at 8:40 pm)Wiggy Wrote: Also pen and paper was not so common 2000 years ago.

Indeed it was not.

(February 21, 2015 at 8:40 pm)Wiggy Wrote: People relied more on memory. Rabbis could recite old testament.

Citation please? By the way you do know the OT was not canonized in 30 A.D.?

(February 21, 2015 at 8:40 pm)Wiggy Wrote: In any case gospels are eyewitness accounts and you can be sentenced to death based on eye witness testimony.

Not without the right to cross examine the witnesses you can't. There's a reason for that. And as I pointed out above, they are not eye witness testimony. They are compilations of stories repeated over one or more generations.

(February 21, 2015 at 8:40 pm)Wiggy Wrote: The bible is a reliable source it shows how holy god is and gives us an escape plan. Jesus words will never die. A fulfilled prophecy

Can't see why you claim it's reliable. Let's see a fulfilled prophecy. It should be:

1) Clearly fulfilled and not a matter of poetic interpretations.

2) It should be clear that the events fulfilling the prophecy happened.

3) The events predicted should be unusual enough that that chances are highly against there having happened.

4) It should be proven that the prophecy actually was made BEFORE the event prophesied. Good luck with that.
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Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by taylor93112 - February 21, 2015 at 10:11 am
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Tonus - February 21, 2015 at 10:18 am
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Grandizer - February 21, 2015 at 10:19 am
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by abaris - February 21, 2015 at 11:15 am
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Cyberman - February 21, 2015 at 11:20 am
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by abaris - February 21, 2015 at 11:25 am
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by downbeatplumb - February 21, 2015 at 11:44 am
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Cyberman - February 21, 2015 at 11:32 am
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Chad32 - February 21, 2015 at 11:34 am
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Jenny A - February 21, 2015 at 11:51 am
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by goodwithoutgod - February 21, 2015 at 12:38 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by abaris - February 21, 2015 at 1:09 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by goodwithoutgod - February 21, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Minimalist - February 21, 2015 at 12:57 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Brakeman - February 21, 2015 at 1:10 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by watchamadoodle - February 21, 2015 at 1:36 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by vorlon13 - February 21, 2015 at 2:54 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Chad32 - February 21, 2015 at 2:59 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Cyberman - February 21, 2015 at 3:03 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Wiggy - February 21, 2015 at 8:40 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Esquilax - February 21, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Nine - February 21, 2015 at 9:06 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by goodwithoutgod - February 21, 2015 at 9:43 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Huggy Bear - February 27, 2015 at 2:58 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Tonus - February 21, 2015 at 10:21 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Jenny A - February 21, 2015 at 11:05 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Chad32 - February 21, 2015 at 8:48 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by IATIA - February 21, 2015 at 8:58 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by robvalue - February 21, 2015 at 9:14 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Nine - February 21, 2015 at 9:15 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Minimalist - February 21, 2015 at 10:36 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Crossless1 - February 24, 2015 at 3:23 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Cyberman - February 21, 2015 at 10:45 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Losty - February 21, 2015 at 11:17 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by YGninja - February 27, 2015 at 12:12 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Crossless1 - February 27, 2015 at 12:27 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Jenny A - February 27, 2015 at 12:47 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Crossless1 - February 27, 2015 at 12:54 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Jenny A - February 27, 2015 at 1:41 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by dyresand - February 27, 2015 at 1:42 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by JesusHChrist - February 27, 2015 at 1:21 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by YGninja - February 27, 2015 at 2:50 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by JesusHChrist - February 27, 2015 at 3:12 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by YGninja - February 27, 2015 at 4:07 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Ravenshire - March 14, 2015 at 8:04 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Minimalist - February 27, 2015 at 12:19 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by CapnAwesome - February 27, 2015 at 1:07 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by dyresand - February 27, 2015 at 5:57 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by YGninja - February 28, 2015 at 10:33 am
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Brakeman - February 28, 2015 at 11:33 am
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Losty - February 28, 2015 at 12:15 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by JesusHChrist - February 28, 2015 at 12:58 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Drich - March 1, 2015 at 12:05 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Jenny A - March 1, 2015 at 12:20 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Drich - March 1, 2015 at 1:23 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Drich - March 1, 2015 at 1:20 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Jenny A - March 1, 2015 at 3:16 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Drich - March 1, 2015 at 11:02 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Brakeman - March 1, 2015 at 4:36 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by YGninja - March 8, 2015 at 1:39 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Cyberman - March 14, 2015 at 3:30 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by robvalue - March 14, 2015 at 3:33 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Cyberman - March 15, 2015 at 2:24 am
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Cyberman - March 15, 2015 at 3:17 am
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by dyresand - April 10, 2015 at 11:31 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by robvalue - March 15, 2015 at 3:45 am
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by robvalue - March 15, 2015 at 8:10 am
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Minimalist - April 10, 2015 at 11:36 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by robvalue - April 11, 2015 at 2:26 am
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Grandizer - April 11, 2015 at 6:11 am
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by robvalue - April 11, 2015 at 6:24 am
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by CapnAwesome - April 16, 2015 at 11:42 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by ThomM - April 28, 2015 at 7:22 pm
RE: Why do gospel contradictions matter? - by Desert Diva - April 28, 2015 at 7:27 pm

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