RE: How to debate a Christian
August 21, 2010 at 12:07 am
(This post was last modified: August 21, 2010 at 1:45 am by lrh9.)
Before you respond to me, Louie, please consider the points from my earliest reply in this thread.
1) Stick to the facts. (Things that can be observationally or historically proven.)
2) Be prepared to defend self and enforce policy with force if necessary.
3) Keep interactions brief, but no less than necessary or desirable.
4) Control the interaction. It is your right and responsibility to walk away in public or leave their home or business whenever you want to, and it is your right and responsibility to make them leave your home whenever you want to.
That being said, one of your major hangups is your misunderstanding of the 'big bang'. You think that the universe came into existence with the big bang. (At least, you think that we think the universe came into existence with the big bang.) That is a falsehood perpetuated by ignorance about the big bang. The big bang only explains that according to scientific evidence and observations about the universe and its natural laws that the universe was in an extremely hot and dense state and it began expanding 13.3 to 13.9 billion years ago, expanded to its current state, and it continues to expand today. There would be no controversy about the "big bang" if people used a name that wasn't so misunderstood, like "the theory of cosmic expansion".
The big bang does not attempt to determine whether or not there was an origin for the cosmos or what that origin was. Your arguments are like trying to argue against evolution to disprove abiogenesis. Falsifying one does not falsify the other.
1) Stick to the facts. (Things that can be observationally or historically proven.)
2) Be prepared to defend self and enforce policy with force if necessary.
3) Keep interactions brief, but no less than necessary or desirable.
4) Control the interaction. It is your right and responsibility to walk away in public or leave their home or business whenever you want to, and it is your right and responsibility to make them leave your home whenever you want to.
That being said, one of your major hangups is your misunderstanding of the 'big bang'. You think that the universe came into existence with the big bang. (At least, you think that we think the universe came into existence with the big bang.) That is a falsehood perpetuated by ignorance about the big bang. The big bang only explains that according to scientific evidence and observations about the universe and its natural laws that the universe was in an extremely hot and dense state and it began expanding 13.3 to 13.9 billion years ago, expanded to its current state, and it continues to expand today. There would be no controversy about the "big bang" if people used a name that wasn't so misunderstood, like "the theory of cosmic expansion".
The big bang does not attempt to determine whether or not there was an origin for the cosmos or what that origin was. Your arguments are like trying to argue against evolution to disprove abiogenesis. Falsifying one does not falsify the other.