(February 24, 2015 at 12:36 am)Parkers Tan Wrote:(February 23, 2015 at 8:37 pm)watchamadoodle Wrote: @Drich, that was a good point you made earlier when you highlighted the similarity between genocide and the bombing of industrial centers in WWII (especially Japan). Here is a quote:
(my bold)
Of course there is still a big difference. Usually the victims of genocide are helpless militarily.
No, this is inaccurate. The reason I say that is because while death from aerial bombardment is random and (as in the case of US firebombing of Japan) that bombardment is aimed at hampering the enemy's economy (through destruction of factories, homes housing workers, or entire swathes of cities), genocide is specifically aimed at a targeted population, with a systematic mechanism in place to do that population to death.
LeMay most likely committed war crimes, and the nuclear attacks were not the worst ones. In early March of 1945, around 300 B-29s each carrying 4.5 tons of incendiary bombs attacked Tokyo. The pathfinders for that force marked the target by fire-bombing an "X" on the city center with each leg a mile long. That was as precise as it got: X marks the spot. Subsequent American bombers flew in as low as 8,000 feet scattering cluster bombs containing 1,600 incendiaries per bomber. The city was burnt out, and over 85,000 people were killed -- the biggest casualty list of any single bombing raid, including both atomic bomb attacks.
That, however, is not genocide, in the sense that while we Americans were happy to kill copious amounts of Japanese, we weren't aiming to exterminate them as an ethnicity, nor did we have a system in place to ensure that end. Americans didn't kill Japanese with the intent to wipe that ethnicity off the face of the Earth. We killed Japanese in order to win the war. Once the Japanese surrendered, we stopped killing them.
There is a clear difference between war and genocide. Learn it.
Educate yourself before you speak. Here is a link showing what the official 'x' target was marking in operation "meeting house."
http://ww2db.com/battle_spec.php?battle_id=217
The city center (urban area) was targeted meaning the civilian population was targeted, this was not a uniformed military target.
There is a list of 14 targeted areas between March and August 1945, only 5 can be considered to be military targets. The rest were homes, and commerical areas (stores/shops)
We break the will of the people by "burning them" according to Le May. Not soldiers but the old, the women and children. We turn the might of our military usage onto the civilian population in an effort to break the will of the people or to bomb them back to their futile era. This is genocide. This genocide is what stopped the war. We fire bombed everything, then nuke them. After two A-bombs destroyed two (Untouched/purposely un bombed non military significant) cities we threatened to nuke every other previously Fire bombed city, starting with the emperial palace.
We in essence destroyed just about every man woman and child who held to pre war ideals. If you were to bother to look up the word genocide or even look past your God hating defination of the word you would find:
gen·o·cide
ˈjenəˌsīd/
noun
the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation.
Our actions against Japan and the others I have already mentioned a couple different times already shows that the U.S. is founded and maintained on this word.