(February 25, 2015 at 12:05 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(February 24, 2015 at 7:32 pm)Godschild Wrote: There's noway that the fossil record can be anything other than speculation at best,
The fossil record is a component in a tapestry of evidence that leads one to the conclusion of evolution; the distinct morphological similarities between animals within the fossil record, plus their specific ordering within the geologic column, with every animal in place, and none out of order,
This is a lie many animals have been found at the wrong levels of the so called geologic column, a column that does not exist in consistence around the world. In places it doesn't even exist in a way to be identified with others.
Quote:Moreover, the fossil record allows us to make predictions, and we've done that: if evolution is real, we should be able to go to X layer and find Y type of animal, and we've done that, finding Tiktaalik and others in the process.
There have been many animals found that do not belong in certain layers, so speculation is all evolutionary science has. Actually a world wide flood would be a better observation of the geological column and the fossils found. The fossil record has never nor will it ever prove evolution.
Quote: So was that just blind luck? Are you really going to tell us that it was sheer luck that we've managed to find exactly what was predicted, at exactly the right point on the planet, based on speculation alone?
Yep, if you insist. I would have chosen the word coincidence. Is it, no what would you call finding many fossils in the wrong layers in the so called column, something like Christian scientist are sabotaging the dig sites. There is not one bit of proof that evolution is true, until that time if you don't mind I'm not buying it.
Quote: there's no proof, no evidence, nothing. Many false statements over the years and some outright lies.
GC
Quote:There's plenty of proof and evidence of species transition, which is what evolution describes.
None, zip, nothing. Now it's species transition, yesterday it was natural selection, the two are not the same.
Quote:Your only response to that was to dismiss the entire concept of species as a scientific conspiracy to undermine the biblical terms you pulled out of your ass, but we know that's literally false, as the term species predates evolution by centuries.
It was used then to denote kinds such as the Canine. Then evolutionary scientist used it to divide the Canine into different species, and to this day they are all still Dogs.
Quote:In fact I find it rather ironic that you'll assert- baselessly- that there's false statements and lies within evolution following a set of assertions like that from you; will you retract your false statement, now that you've been given evidence that it was wrong?
Evidence, good joke

Quote:Moreover, now that your dismissal has been proven baseless,
My dismissal requires nothing more than that, the burden of proof is with the one making the claim, seems I've heard that before, how about you.
Quote:what will be your next response to the fact that species to species transitions are what are described in evolution, and observed to occur? Obviously you can't use a false premise as your rebuttal.
Just because some scientist makes a claim and describes something with no proof means absolutely nothing. Speculation is all that evolutionary science has, nothing more. Species to species transitions have never been observed, if it were so the whole world would be abuzz. I do not have to use anything for a rebuttal, the burden of proof is in your court.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.