RE: Gaps in theistic arguments. Secular theism vs religious theism
February 27, 2015 at 12:33 am
(This post was last modified: February 27, 2015 at 12:37 am by The Reality Salesman01.)
(February 26, 2015 at 9:41 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: It just seems like an oxymoron to me. Theism looks at things based on their belief in a reality that includes God. Secularists look at things independent of any reference to God.
Which is why your views continue to run into objections. Reality with God requires assumptions, same for reality without. You stated that two posts ago. We view the assumptions of supernatural entities to be an illogical requirement in understanding the world. We both trust our sense perception, and that is a necessary assumption in understanding anything. In fact, that alone has been enough to create the means for this conversation and everything else that you depend on in your day-to-day. When you add the assumption of a supernatural audience to this conversation, given that you share the dependence on sensory data, and all conclusions regarding sensory data have materialistic explanations, why would you expect Atheists to respond any differently when you log-on, and begin to posit an unprovable supernatural entity to be responsible for all of it, and the only exception you plea for is that your claims be immune to sensory evidence. You are every bit deserving of the criticisms you've received so far, and I think you know it. You're barking up a tree on an island that doesn't inhabit things worth barking at.