(August 22, 2010 at 5:03 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The entire universe is proof of God's creation, given the assumption. Not given the assumption, if we knew it was God, the entire endeavours of religion are laid waste. Science need not factor in God as an explanation. I consider religious and scientific endeavour to be two entirely different things. I can be in awe and wonder at scientific knowledge. I find I can appreciate religious endeavour without compromising intellectually. I'm convinced that the positive model for God supersedes all world views.NOMA is not something I buy into. Religion overtly intrudes on science, and still to this day offers its adherents explanations that are totally discredited. You have to be prepared either to abandon rationality or the foundational texts or a bit of both to reconcile the positions. Normally its the foundational texts that are jettisoned as allegories, myths and metaphors. But are then used by people in the same religion to justify their beliefs.
It would really help if the religions would care to take a pen to the texts and highlight the historicity and fact from the myth and legend, then perhaps we will all know what we are having a discussion over. It leaves positive atheism with a moving target where god is in sight and then disappears as one person declares fact and another myth.
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.
