(February 27, 2015 at 5:24 pm)Chad32 Wrote:(February 27, 2015 at 5:21 pm)Godschild Wrote:
Yes, I know what they did. Whether they deserved to be executed or not wasn't my point. I'm just demonstrating that one of the things we executed them for is water torture, but when we start doing it to other people, suddenly they tell us it isn't torture. Morals change when someone is from outside of the group. Just the fact that you got defensive about it helps prove my point. We do it to a lesser degree than they did it, so it's ok.
I got defensive because of my knowledge of WWII and what they did to my fellow countrymen. People reacted differently to actions taken then because of the atrocities committed against the innocent around the world, we had just finished with the brutality of the Germans and the emotions were running high. All of what went on has to be taken into account, I know personally what those fillings were, they were expressed to me through my family and others involved in the war. The statement, I guess you had to be there, fits this situation. Also the water torture they used would actually drown people, they poured the water directly into the nostrils slowly until they had to breath, what they breathed was water.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.