RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
March 1, 2015 at 9:41 pm
(This post was last modified: March 1, 2015 at 9:52 pm by Fuzzy.)
Modern Feminism to me has always seemed like a bunch of bullshit identity politics. You also speak of feminism as "the" movement that's trying to defend your reproductive rights and all that stuff, when it's not THE only one, we need to drop all this gender bullshit and start focusing on better human rights in general. Yeah feminists are protecting your rights, but a lot of them also want to hammer down on other people's rights.
You also have a total misunderstanding of the influence people like Anita Sarkeesian's have, her and many other rad fems like her are all over the mainstream media, i'm from the UK and their articles are plastered all over the Newspapers and online sites, and Sarkeesian has been on Sky News which is a massive TV news station over here, all because the Mainstream media are obviously going out of their way to not offend people, the same think you think the Atheist community should do.
In a sense you want to start trying to regulate atheism "If atheists want to gain acceptance, see religious laws get removed, and someday live in a world where dogma doesn't exist, we need power. And power comes in number.
Feminists (not the extremists) are a heftily sized group of people that atheists should be working to attract, not piss off"
You could use exactly the same argument to say Atheists should be polite to Muslims or Christians to attract them in, you also go on to say that most Feminists are Irreligious anyway, so obviously they aren't being detracted by Atheism, Atheists should come to atheism because they see it as the truth, and if they let things like political views of other atheists detract them from Atheism (into becoming what exactly, agnostic?) then they probably shouldn't be an Atheist anyway.
You can't hold it against TJ and Jaclyn Glenn for making the videos either, because both make money off their Youtube accounts, so they're gonna make videos that generate traffic, and at this point in time "Anti-feminist" material is pretty popular because a lot of feminists are going around whining about everything and accusing random people of being rape supporters. So to assume TJ's motives are for anything but the $$$ is wrong imo.
Oh and I also don't see how you can say there's "so much anti-feminism" in the Atheist community, your only cited sources of anti-feminism in the Atheist community are TJ and Jaclyyn Glenn, that's a grand total of 2, and we don't know for sure the Religious views of the people that watch and support these videos, maybe they're Religious people that pop over for the anti-feminist videos and that's where the extra views come from. I'd say it's a safe bet there's a lot less anti-feminism in the Atheist community than a LOT of theistic ones.
You also have a total misunderstanding of the influence people like Anita Sarkeesian's have, her and many other rad fems like her are all over the mainstream media, i'm from the UK and their articles are plastered all over the Newspapers and online sites, and Sarkeesian has been on Sky News which is a massive TV news station over here, all because the Mainstream media are obviously going out of their way to not offend people, the same think you think the Atheist community should do.
In a sense you want to start trying to regulate atheism "If atheists want to gain acceptance, see religious laws get removed, and someday live in a world where dogma doesn't exist, we need power. And power comes in number.
Feminists (not the extremists) are a heftily sized group of people that atheists should be working to attract, not piss off"
You could use exactly the same argument to say Atheists should be polite to Muslims or Christians to attract them in, you also go on to say that most Feminists are Irreligious anyway, so obviously they aren't being detracted by Atheism, Atheists should come to atheism because they see it as the truth, and if they let things like political views of other atheists detract them from Atheism (into becoming what exactly, agnostic?) then they probably shouldn't be an Atheist anyway.
You can't hold it against TJ and Jaclyn Glenn for making the videos either, because both make money off their Youtube accounts, so they're gonna make videos that generate traffic, and at this point in time "Anti-feminist" material is pretty popular because a lot of feminists are going around whining about everything and accusing random people of being rape supporters. So to assume TJ's motives are for anything but the $$$ is wrong imo.
Oh and I also don't see how you can say there's "so much anti-feminism" in the Atheist community, your only cited sources of anti-feminism in the Atheist community are TJ and Jaclyyn Glenn, that's a grand total of 2, and we don't know for sure the Religious views of the people that watch and support these videos, maybe they're Religious people that pop over for the anti-feminist videos and that's where the extra views come from. I'd say it's a safe bet there's a lot less anti-feminism in the Atheist community than a LOT of theistic ones.
