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How can fundamentalists not wake up?
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RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up?
(March 2, 2015 at 2:14 pm)YGninja Wrote: Relying on science as an explicator for all things also necessarily relies on human cognition to be able to explain all things, and such a position is self defeating, as you assume infinite cognition - a supernatural property.

That part in bold is where you fail severely. You seem to think that because you claim a divine source for your beliefs that you are exempt from this problem, but the truth is that all we have to go on is human cognition. Even claims of god need to be interpreted through this lens, and when we examine these supernatural claims, all we are left with is the problem of the fallibility of human cognition.

That is why there must be a process in place to evaluate the truth value of a claim. What we have come up with and has repeatedly demonstrated its validity over and over and over again is science. The fact that a process that has proven itself on many, many occasions shows your claims to have no merit is not the fault of the process.

Religious people need to steer away from the fallibility of human cognition argument, because it only weakens their position.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by watchamadoodle - March 2, 2015 at 11:37 am
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by Strider - March 2, 2015 at 11:57 am
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by YGninja - March 2, 2015 at 12:07 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by Esquilax - March 2, 2015 at 1:05 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by YGninja - March 2, 2015 at 1:24 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by YGninja - March 2, 2015 at 1:53 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by Esquilax - March 2, 2015 at 1:52 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by YGninja - March 2, 2015 at 2:14 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by Faith No More - March 2, 2015 at 2:35 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by YGninja - March 2, 2015 at 2:45 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by Esquilax - March 4, 2015 at 9:53 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by KevinM1 - March 4, 2015 at 11:27 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by YGninja - March 8, 2015 at 1:33 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by abaris - March 8, 2015 at 7:02 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by YGninja - March 8, 2015 at 9:04 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by KevinM1 - March 9, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by YGninja - March 9, 2015 at 2:31 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by KevinM1 - March 9, 2015 at 3:03 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by KevinM1 - March 9, 2015 at 3:34 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by KevinM1 - March 9, 2015 at 3:56 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by dyresand - March 4, 2015 at 8:46 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by Ravenshire - March 3, 2015 at 11:46 pm
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RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by Cato - March 4, 2015 at 7:24 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by abaris - March 2, 2015 at 12:09 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by Chad32 - March 2, 2015 at 12:09 pm
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RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by professor - March 2, 2015 at 12:55 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by YGninja - March 2, 2015 at 12:57 pm
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RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by YGninja - March 2, 2015 at 2:51 pm
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RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by YGninja - March 2, 2015 at 2:57 pm
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RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by Chad32 - March 2, 2015 at 3:11 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by Chad32 - March 2, 2015 at 2:54 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by YGninja - March 2, 2015 at 3:00 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by Chad32 - March 2, 2015 at 3:18 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by robvalue - March 2, 2015 at 2:56 pm
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RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by Mudhammam - March 3, 2015 at 12:21 am
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by Cyberman - March 3, 2015 at 7:23 am
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RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by Mudhammam - March 11, 2015 at 3:25 pm
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RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by Godschild - March 11, 2015 at 7:57 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by dyresand - March 11, 2015 at 11:59 pm
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RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by abaris - March 3, 2015 at 10:02 pm
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RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by Chad32 - March 4, 2015 at 8:53 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by dyresand - March 4, 2015 at 8:58 pm
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RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by dyresand - March 5, 2015 at 12:56 am
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by YGninja - March 8, 2015 at 3:58 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by robvalue - March 8, 2015 at 2:05 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by Losty - March 8, 2015 at 2:18 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by professor - March 8, 2015 at 8:40 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by robvalue - March 9, 2015 at 3:37 am
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by KevinM1 - March 8, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by Chad32 - March 8, 2015 at 9:01 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by YGninja - March 8, 2015 at 9:47 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by dyresand - March 9, 2015 at 2:13 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by Ravenshire - March 10, 2015 at 11:31 pm
RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up? - by robvalue - March 11, 2015 at 6:58 am
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