RE: How can fundamentalists not wake up?
March 2, 2015 at 3:05 pm
(This post was last modified: March 2, 2015 at 3:08 pm by FatAndFaithless.)
(March 2, 2015 at 2:57 pm)YGninja Wrote:(March 2, 2015 at 2:53 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Where are you trying to go, with this question?
Well i am trying to get you to recognise that we don't even know how much we know, of all there is to know. So the fact that we may have a veneer of naturalistic explanation for some of the things we do no, really is no grounds to assume a general principle that everything which exists is natural.
Correct, we do not know the quantity of 'things that can be known' nor the quanitity of 'things that cannot be known'.
However, everything that we've come to understand thus far has been through a methodological naturalist scientific process. Does that 'rule out' the possibility of supernatural/spiritual things/entities existing? Technically, no. However, there is absolutely no reason to proceed under any assumption that has not been substantiated, and the existence of supernatural things is one hell of an unsubstantiated assumption.
Methodological naturalism isn't a dogma or doctrine of "scientism", it's simply proven to be the single most helpful and effective way of discovering things about our reality, and tacking on any sort of supernatural additions to that is unnecessary, unhelpful, and unjustified.
We don't operate under the premise that "nothing other than naturalism can exist, period, end of story", we operate under the premise that "as of yet, there is no reason to believe anything supernatural does exist, and until the existence of the supernatural can be proven, there's no justification of operating under that assumption."
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