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Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
Quote:Things like this need to be analysed case by case, you can't just say women don't get jobs as much just because they are women. What if the man is actually more qualified and so gets the job because of that?
I think he/she is talking about equal qualifications, obviously... Otherwise it doesn't make sense. You are the one assuming the man's is more qualified. If you have 50% of the population occupying 5%-10% of well paid jobs and power positions something's wrong, unless you want to argue that men are biologically superior in intelligence. If you really have equal opportunities for both genders it doesn't make sense for women to get paid less and occupy so few positions of power. Don't you think? after all - Equal opportunities usually balances the number. Why the hell should one gender be less interested in working and earning lots of money?
Quote:That is just rubbish. Can anyone point to any job anywhere, where men and women do the same job and yet men are paid more? You can't, because it just doesn't happen any more. You'd think that if an employer could get away with paying women less, they would just fire all the men to save money on wages. And if this did actually happen anymore, you'd think there would be an uproar about it, the scale and speed with which news can be distributed nowadays.
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Fire all men? Do you know what economical ignorance means? You just demonstrated it. I'm not going to say why that wouldn't work. You see, first of all 50% of the working force is men and obviously you need men to work, you cant' survive with only 50% of the population working, what would the other 50% live on? Thinking

The wage gap is not for people with different jobs, it means that if someone holds the same job (example - doctor) you are more likely to receive more as a man. You can't say it doesn't happen any more because the evidence points otherwise. The wage gap exists even on female dominated fields, and exists even when both work the same hours and are productive. There's a lot more to it than people's choices, there's sociology and cultural barriers involved.

To answer your first question - Basically any job, including some female dominated ones. You are, on average, more likely to make more money as a man. Even if you consider it justified, it's a fact. You are easily promoted, suffer little workplace sexual harassment, you don't need to worry about getting fired or getting your career affected negatively because you got pregnant, you are expected to be aggressive because it's a masculine trait, etc.
Quote:Again, there are many factors involved in this, it would be very hard to demonstrate that sexism is the primary reason for this.
If one group gets promotions more often despite both groups having degree and skills for the job then it's most likely motivated by a bias. If I showed you a graph with 100 people, 50 whites and 50 blacks with same qualifications, and only whites got the job, would you say it's not racism?
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you




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RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community? - by Dystopia - March 2, 2015 at 4:59 pm
SPEEDBUMP - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 4, 2015 at 9:42 am

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