Quote:First of all, let's relax with the hostility. I am attempting to have a civil discussion here and you've been tossing around some hints that you're looking to take this elsewhere.Oh don't get me started on the civility manners again. You're the one making presumptuous premisses. What studies in economics and sociology do you have to say that one movement is not needed?
Quote:To clarify, I was making an educated guess that this is what you meant, but I wanted to see you answer the question so we can both be 100% clear. Now, if you don't mind, could you explain to me exactly what you mean by unequivocal gender equality? Could you maybe give some examples or explain what this looks like on a societal scale? Also, could you give some examples of where this equality does not currently exist or is lacking?Educated guesses without content are worth less than a rude guest with good points and evidence.
Check out my post in the previous or before the previous page. I made some basic points
Quote:I hate to answer your questions with more questions, but if I understand your position clearly than I can have a more informed conversation with you. But I'll politely ask you to drop all of the "got a problem with that?" nonsense because quite honestly that will take this discussion nowhere very quickly.Why? Do you have a problem with that?
Quote:Basically what I am asking is, does large-scale oppression of females still exist here in the states? If so then a feminist movement may still be necessary. Or, has it now come down to individual instances of discrimination which can be dealt with by developing certain strategies for eradicating said discrimination on a case by case basis?You might think oppression like in the dark ages motivated by legislation doesn't exist, and you're right about that, the west is much better for women, but that doesn't mean one group can't be disadvantages. Basically, you're making yourself unclear in the last sentence. Why do we need only some strategies? Why can't we have strategies + a group for people's rights? IMO, as long as there's one relevant issue such as (check one of my previous posts again) higher incidence of domestic violence and lack of useful support for victims that makes a gender equality movement all worth it.
I_am_not_mafia was a little "rude" probably because you're making the typical assumption that there's no problems for one gender just because you may not have seen them and because of that you question the necessity of feminism (and possibly other egalitarian movements) - Instead of asking, why don't you google "women's problems" or something like that and go see for yourself? At least before making these questions
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you