Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?

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Because they want to.

Why?

Why does everyone not become a banker? Because they care more about what they do rather than how much money they make.

Correct, and why is it that one gender is more interested in becoming a banker?

No i'm not, i stated in my previous posts there are many reasons for this.

which you still haven't listed

Because men and women are different. Have different preferences. Have different motives.

Then prove that the differences between men and women are biologically sufficient to ensure they take drastically different paths.

You insulted me by purposefully misrepresenting my hypothetical scenario in order to make me look stupid, prick.

Not going to answer

gain. I did not mean fire all men within the second. I find it very hard to believe that you actually believed that, so I must conclude that you are just being an asshole.

whatever. You do realize that, even so, firing 50% of the workforce progressively is counter-productive right? Not to mention men are preferred by a lot of employers because they don't get pregnant and are not expected to do most house tasks, etc.

Women can lead too, now whos being sexist?

I_am_not_mafia provided links that show barriers to female leadership.

Do you mean the manual labour jobs? You know? The hard, tough, gritty, unpleasant jobs that men do and women don't.

So what? that's completely irrelevant, and btw I'm 100% in favour of more women in manual labour jobs. But I was talking about high paying jobs like politics and engineering. You can't bring the manual labour to make men look pitiful, I don't think it's fair for men to execute all manual labour, but this isn't connected to the point. We're arguing on women, so please if you want to discuss men's problems create another topic

Because in general, men are more motivated by money and women prefer children. In general.

Prove it Mr. Neurologist

I have questioned why those choices happen, and its not sexism.

You have not give an answer. You can't just say "these people are different therefore it's justified." I want a clear answer.

Accepted fact by who? Clearly not the government as they would arrest employers who paid women less.

In my country at least it's very VERY hard to prove your gender was a factor. The fact there are no prosecutions doesn't prove it doesn't exist

I don't know if you've ever tried talking to yourself, but you aren't very pleasant.

I'm a super nice person but I'm not gratuitously nice

Yes

If you want to know the truth I think you make some good points on many posts about atheism and religion. I just think you're wrong at this. I don't think you're a bad person Wolf

Firstly, I consider I'm wrong all the time. Don't accuse me of not doing that like a child would when they're losing an arugment with their parents. Second, I didn't say there wasn't unequal pay anymore, I said that there isn't unequal pay for the same work.

But there is and I provided links two pages before this one.

I'm probably going to ignore you after this because you've misrepresented me too many times and i'm done correcting you. But still, I can't be bothered to read through loads of peer-reviewed papers right now so i'll just post some videos.

OH really, it's always me misinterpreting you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58arQIr882w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-6usiN4uoA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oqyrflOQFc

I have a question for wage gap deniers - Do you have any proof b sides conservative websites like the AEI? Because that's all I see. I've already refuted those videos from "factual feminist" countless times and I'm tired of arguing. One of the videos. which has been used against me is easy to refute - The woman in the video says "there's cultural conventions that make women go for less well paid jobs, take more time off, etc" - She fails to address what are the causes of those cultural conventions. So please, can you show me something that is not the equivalent to American Fox news? :Thinking: this is not an ad hominem, I'm not attacking anyone's character, I'm refuting the source. Can you provide a peer reviewed impartial proof?

Wolf let's simplify this - Even if it was true that 100% of women who receive unequal pay receive it just because of choices, can you prove me that those choices are biologically natural? I want to know why do you think those choices happen. why isn't a woman interested in a job like engineering that pays off very well? I mean there are women in engineering, but they're not so interested. Curiously, why aren't men interested in teaching as much as women? WHat's wrong with men teaching?

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Um, no, the conversation will remain civil or I will not partake in it. No skin off my nose or anyone else's, I'll simply stop having the conversation if someone, you or anyone else, wishes to turn it into pointless bickering.

Then you're going to be in bad sheets when you step on someone's toes in real life.

And I'm not necessarily against a movement in general, I am simply asking mafia, "Why a feminist movement?" as opposed something else? That is why I am asking mafia questions so I can get a more clear view on what he/she thinks. Not sure where the problem is there?

What do you propose darling?

If mafia felt that I was making unfair assumptions based on some ignorance or lack of awareness of some societal issues, then mafia can feel free to address me on those assumptions and we can go from there, but it doesn't give him/her the right to be rude. Period.

Actually people have the right to be rude when you step on toes. It's life. If someone comes to tell me that atheists are immoral I have the right to tell them how idiotic they are.