Christians, Prove Your God Is Good

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But why wouldn't God be exempt? You can label the argument however you like, but you are again applying rules and limitations to the One Who is beyond all rules and limitations. He must necessarily be beyond such as omnipotent God, no?

If that's what you believe then that's fine, but if that's the case then your argument is entirely backwards too, because now you're accepting the existence of a category of things that exist without coming from anything, in reality, and then further asserting that such a category doesn't contain the universe, without evidence or justification. It is you who is applying extra rules without reason here: you can either say something can't come from nothing but you'd need to stick with that, or you can say that god is exempt from that rule, and then you'd have to prove that point and give us a reason to think that things like universes aren't allowed to also not come from anything.

What you can't do is demand that we all have to follow this rule that you won't, because you said so. Either it's a thing in play or it isn't, but if it isn't a thing, it's not a thing for any of us, not just for you. You don't get to define special rules for yourself.

Again, there is no reason to apply the laws of the natural world to that which is unnatural.

... Or something that existed prior to the natural world, like the pre-big bang state of reality.

There is simply no way to explain something coming from nothing.

But you think that things don't always need to come from something. Aside from the fiat assertion that only god is allowed to be in that category, how do you justify assuming that the same category isn't available to us?

We are no closer to understanding how matter came into existence than we were thousands of years ago. It always comes back to the same necessary step of providing an original source, and nothing else even comes close to explaining it as satisfactorily as God.

How is god an explanation for that?