RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
March 7, 2015 at 9:51 pm
(This post was last modified: March 7, 2015 at 9:59 pm by MilesAbbott81.)
(March 7, 2015 at 8:55 pm)abaris Wrote: So let me get this straight. He created original sin, since he - according to that warped logic - created Adam and Eve and set up his little sadistic experiment. Of course he knew the outcome beforehand because he's omniscient.
So he gets down to earth in the guise of his son, who's not really his son but himself in one of his three personas and stages his own little splatter show to free humanity from original sin he created in the first place.
So let's assume for a moment I'm buying into that absurd tale so far. To whom did he sacrifice this Jesus shell? And was he dead for three days, meaning there was no god for 72 hours? If the answer is no, as it always turns out to be, there never was a sacrifice, since nothing was lost. A sacrifice by definition demands for something precious being lost and not some cheap circus trick.
Do you know how one dies by crucifixion? It isn't from blood loss, it's from an agonizingly gradual asphyxiation. Would you like to die in such a way? Would you choose to die that way if you were God? Why?
He chose an agonizing death so that we could understand the full measure of His love. He drank from the cup of His own wrath, though He didn't deserve to; He shared in our suffering. How can that be classified as anything but a sacrifice?
And yes, God created sin, and it was His will that we should sin, so that we might learn the difference between good and evil. There is a duality to everything in His creation, and how are we to know good without first knowing evil? That is the purpose of our existence.
Could He have done it another way? Certainly, but you can rest assured that this is the best way, because God does all things perfectly.
(March 7, 2015 at 9:50 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: MA81, if you're aware of the fact that you can't explain your god, why are you contributing to this thread? Do you really think a bunch of woo, logical fallacies, circular reasoning, and other crap we've heard a million times is going to make us see it your way?
Of course not, I even said so at the beginning of my involvement in this thread.
Though you are wrong that I can't explain my God; I can and have done so perfectly in this very thread. If you're unwilling to accept the argument I've presented, then that is fine...doesn't mean you are right, nor have any of you even offered an alternative theory explaining the origin of matter. All expected, of course.
TBH I'm not even sure how we started upon the topic; I do recall initially being involved in the topic discussion, but then this entire thread is one massive mess, anyway.