(January 16, 2009 at 12:08 pm)dagda Wrote: It came to me as I was sitting around. I havn't really ever heard a really convincing argument against the existence of a god. I was intreaged and thought the best place to come in my search was an atheist forum. So, anyone got any good ones?
By the way, I do belive in a god, just keeping an open mind.
You have entered by your own will in a pit of hungry atheists which were awaiting just for guys like you in order to eat you alive from head to toe. lol
You are going to hear a lot of anti God proofs each of them in another style and form.
Here is my version (fairly not accepted by all as convincing) and it is up to you to judge it.
First of all a blasphemy question as seen by all God believers:who
created God?
The answer God existed forever will be followed by a second question : where from do you know this? To this your answer cannot be but it is written so in Holly Scriptures-the Bible if you are a Christian.
Who wrote the Bible ?
The answer ,if you are really open minded, is that he Bible was written by man.
The inevitable conclusion is that God is a creation of man.
Now the motives of the creation by man of supranatural forces in the past of humankind is an issue that can be discussed for long hours and days. In my opinion if you'll be convinced by that or by the reasonable arguments of the existence of life and of the whole of the universe without any need of a God is important but still not decisive.
In my opinion God is created by every believer in his mind just the moment he thinks of him.He "sees " then God in his own humanly image as he learned about him from the very moment his parents or teachers spoke about him.
This "creation" of God in the mind of people is a result of a need planted in their counscience by the society which up till now is dominated by a majority of God believers.
It is an implant which the majority of men is not aware of and they think that addressing God is an intrinsec need of humanity in their search for the meaning of life on earth or of the universe as a whole.
In fact as you with patience will come to know science in which we atheist believe has the prooves of the appearance and development of life on earth on the basis of laws of nature where it is no need for any supranatural forces.
True there are still many unanswered questions.Science knows a lot about how the universe ticks but knows next to nothing why it ticks so.
The answer given by religion that God knows all about the world he has created brings us back to the primary question put in this reply.
It needs a fairly amount of open mindness and even of courage in order to come out in the open and to declare yourself as an atheist.