(August 23, 2010 at 7:23 pm)NoGodaloud ? Wrote: And based on the same reasoning, i conclude with a great deal of certainty, God exists.
The very existence of our universe, its beginning, the fine-tuning of the laws of nature, the constants of physics, and the initial conditions of the universe, the contained specific and complex information in DNA, the complexity of a cell and its irreducible complexity, human consciousness and ability of speech and thinkink, its consciousness of morality, and the bible do let me conclude with a great deal of certainty, God exists. Where is the difference ?
Richard Dawkins, Kenneth Miller and other scientists, who are sincerely attempting to come to logical rather than fanciful ways to explain the concepts you mention here, have addressed these points over and over, especially irreducible complexity and the "fine-tuning," as you call it, of the universe (I would say that's a misnomer). To ignore them and revert back to a prime mover to explain everything is lazy, for if we are resigned to take only that approach, we might as well stop trying to do science at all. As for the Bible as proof of anything other than man's fear of death and desire to believe anything ... please.
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We have lingered in the chambers of the sea | By sea-girls wreathed with seaweed red and brown | Till human voices wake us, and we drown. — T.S. Eliot
"... man always has to decide for himself in the darkness, that he must want beyond what he knows. ..." — Simone de Beauvoir
"As if that blind rage had washed me clean, rid me of hope; for the first time, in that night alive with signs and stars, I opened myself to the gentle indifference of the world. Finding it so much like myself—so like a brother, really—I felt that I had been happy and that I was happy again." — Albert Camus, "The Stranger"
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