RE: Christians, Prove Your God Is Good
March 12, 2015 at 8:47 am
(This post was last modified: March 12, 2015 at 8:53 am by Fidel_Castronaut.)
(March 11, 2015 at 2:42 pm)Godschild Wrote:(March 10, 2015 at 7:15 pm)MilesAbbott81 Wrote: breaking His commandments is.
People do not love their neighbors as themselves. I seriously doubt any of you are poor, and I bet most of you are incredibly wealthy, at least compared to the truly poor of this world. The following applies to you.
God doesn't starve children; people starve children. People in first world countries don't give; they withhold. How many children could any of you have saved from starvation or dehydration or disease, yet they died anyway because you'd rather spend money on your damned selves and your entertainment instead of them?
You all dare lecture me on morality? You hypocrites, take a look in the mirror!
There is nothing you could ever say or do to wash the blood from your hands; only our Lord and Savior is capable of doing that. Claim some moral high ground when you've actually earned the right...until then, perhaps you should shut your mouths.
Miles I've tried to share this very thing with them on numerous occasions, saying to them God created us to take care of the less fortunate. If we do not it's our fault not God's. God created the means to help those who are starving and thirsty, dying of diseases and other things, they are given into our hands to help, to show our compassion, to minister and give our love to, just as the scriptures teach. Most here just ignore it, just like they did with you. They either feel the conviction of their failure or they do not care and want God to do the work they were made for, caring for their fellow man.
Wait for it ..... now the complaining and sad stories start.
GC
Come on GC, PARODY.
It's a big word, I know, but you need to understand the context. When someone who doesn't believe in your god says 'well why doesn't god do x or y', you need to immediately stop thinking that they are addressing said god directly through you as a proxy.
What they are in fact doing is pointing out the logical contradictions in your beliefs/ideas by using the very basis of those beliefs/ideas against you.
So when you say, for example, 'god is the ultimate good', and then someone in response says 'but what about all the natural disasters [or whatever] that cause the loss of innocent lives', this is not a response that legitimises the belief in that god. They are not saying 'well why can't god just do this and everything will be ok?' with the expectation that god will actually do this. They are highlighting the contradiction in your thinking.
Is this something you've ever understood on your years being on here? That when we invoke your (belief) in your god, we are not actually criticising god (which doesn't exist), but you as a believer?
I've highlighted the only thing I've ever seen you write on this forum that I agree with. As you know, my usual MO is start with whatever you've said and believe the exact opposite, because 99% of the time you're wrong. This time it was the 1%, and it made me cry, and want to tell a sad story.
(March 11, 2015 at 6:17 pm)Godschild Wrote: I chose the needy because that's what I've been trying to get across for sometime now. I was letting him know that helping those in need isn't for most of the atheist here.
Whatever you need to keep telling yourself to give you the illusion of poverty based superiority.