Christians, Prove Your God Is Good

[KevinM1]

If you loved your neighbor as yourself, you would have to take the food out of your mouth and give it to them. In fact, you yourself would have to starve before they ever did, if it was within your power. That is God's standard, the example set by Jesus Christ.

So, Jesus died of starvation, then? Oh, no, wait, he didn't.

You have to love your neighbor enough to die for them, to suffer excruciating pain and agony for them. That is what Jesus Christ did for us all, and it is a standard no one is capable of meeting on their own.

Psychotics have been known to hurt themselves for a variety of reasons....

Nevertheless, we have all been guilty of not giving enough for our neighbor; we are all guilty of starving children and letting them die of dehydration and disease. That was why I mentioned it - you can't judge God for using the methods of justice He does when you ALL fall FAR short of His standards.

Sure I can. I don't need to be a chef to complain when I get food poisoning. I don't need to be a parent to give criticism when a parent abuses their children. I don't need to be a musician to know Nickelback sucks, objectively.

You can whine about His methods all you like, and call them cruel and unnecessary, but how do you know what is necessary? Who are you to question God, to claim to know or have a better way of doing things?

I'm someone who sees a system that's needlessly wasteful, which calls into doubt the presence of a perfect being. It's criminally wasteful to send an unknown number of souls to hell for an eternity simply because they were born in the wrong place, or because they didn't make a leap of faith. Eternal punishment for a finite 'crime', one logically committed because of a complete lack of verifiable evidence for god's existence, is straight bullshit.

This is the same being that cursed an entire species for the actions of a couple, even though they had no idea of the concept of punishment because god neglected to spell it out for them. He also left the Fruit right where they could get it. It's like leaving a knife in reach of a toddler, then violently punishing the toddler (and all of his progeny) for playing with it.

I program for a living. If god sent me his resume, I certainly wouldn't hire him. He's the kind of guy who would nuke a DB table on purpose.

If the purpose of our existence on Earth is to learn the difference between good and evil, and God put that purpose in motion, you can rest assured that there is no better way. Being made into the image of God is not an easy thing to accomplish.

If our purpose is to learn the difference between good and evil? You don't sound convinced there, champ. Moreover, why would that be the purpose of this life? Think about it: the ultimate reward for those that live according to your god's whims is eternal paradise, a state of being where the skills learned in this life are completely unnecessary. Can you not see how ridiculous that is? It's not as though the things here are to prepare us for heaven. There, there's no wants or needs. No disease. No poverty. How we act here really has no bearing on how we'd act under those conditions.

Unless, of course, the bible is wrong about what waits for us after death....

Beyond that, you're just spouting off the "mysterious ways" BS that is so tiring. "You can't know because god has his own reasons, blah blah blah." The only thing we have that says he's right is the bible, which is circular logic. God is right because the bible says he is. Whee!