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Argument for atheism from necessary evil
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RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil
(August 26, 2010 at 10:46 am)Ace Wrote:
(August 25, 2010 at 5:43 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You have stuff Ace that has a negative effect on your confidence. Being saved is to enable you to fulfil your potential.
Could you list them old chap? What negative effect?

If I have a problem/negative effect on my life, I overcome it through work and determination. Something prayer has never done.
Can you explain how being "saved" enables you to fulfil your potential?
You're born imperfect/ none of us are perfect. Ace: meet Adam & Eve. Sure we all try our best. Humans throughout history have realised their shortcomings when compared to perfection, hence the need to wipe out bad stuff we do. Learning to live with the imperfection is a way of dealing with it too. "We're perfect in our imperfection". So called primitives kill chickens/ deny themselves something to make it better. You get the picture I hope. People find ways of blotting it out too. Currently we can be so overstimulated we can avoid thinking about stuff. So... with the problem being turned around by the bad stuff being wiped out for you and you just having to accept that - is what being saved means.

(August 26, 2010 at 10:46 am)Ace Wrote:
Quote:should you wish to accept the forgiveness.
Last I checked, I haven't done any wrongs. Maybe little ones like swearing, stealing a toy car when I was five or hitting an arshole for bullying my friends. Hardly something to go to hell for.
What point is there to "accept forgiveness" if you haven't done anything wrong? My reasoning is sound but your god's.....well the same can't be said for his reasoning.
Hell is what's happening to you now if you carry around guilt/ stop yourself from fulfilling your potential.
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RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by padraic - August 24, 2010 at 8:00 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Tiberius - August 24, 2010 at 4:16 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Tiberius - August 24, 2010 at 6:20 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Tiberius - August 24, 2010 at 9:07 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 24, 2010 at 4:52 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 25, 2010 at 5:43 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Ace Otana - August 26, 2010 at 10:46 am
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 26, 2010 at 6:22 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 27, 2010 at 6:56 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by HeyItsZeus - August 24, 2010 at 11:08 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Tiberius - August 24, 2010 at 10:23 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 27, 2010 at 8:30 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 27, 2010 at 9:53 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Xyster - August 27, 2010 at 10:48 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 28, 2010 at 7:15 am
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 28, 2010 at 7:41 am
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 28, 2010 at 6:02 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 28, 2010 at 7:10 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 28, 2010 at 11:02 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by fr0d0 - August 29, 2010 at 8:43 am
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Ace Otana - August 29, 2010 at 11:58 am
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Scarface - August 30, 2010 at 10:37 am
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Scarface - August 30, 2010 at 12:45 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Scarface - August 30, 2010 at 1:10 pm
RE: Argument for atheism from necessary evil - by Scarface - August 30, 2010 at 1:18 pm

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