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Origin of Allah(Al-illah)
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RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah)
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(August 26, 2010 at 9:16 am)DeistPaladin Wrote:
(August 26, 2010 at 3:24 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Gen 1:26 Let us make man in our image

Fr0d0 if you believe that Genesis is poetry then why use this to explain God.

Fr0d0 Wrote:The vast majority of religions deal with forgiveness through sacrifice, I didn't say otherwise. What I said is that the God of mainstream Christianity is the evolutionary ultimate step having God doing the sacrifice.

DeistPaladin Wrote:The problem here is that if Jesus is God, who is he sacrificing himself to? Himself? To convince himself to forgive us? If Yahweh wishes to forgive, why doesn't he simply do so instead of making himself bleed on a cross? If the sacrifice was a display of Jesus' love for humanity, I can think of better displays of love than having people whip him and crucify him.

It's not so much Jesus sacrificing Himself to the Father, it's more like Jesus sacrificing Himself for us. Please remember we're talking about a supernatural being so things like the Trinity, sacrifice, eternity, omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent are far from our understanding.
(August 25, 2010 at 8:23 pm)Ashendant Wrote: [quote='fr0d0' pid='89653' dateline='1282776673']
The differences between Allah of Islam and the mainstream Xtian God are so numerous it's difficult to see how anyone could say they are even related.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/god.htm

IMO The Quran's depiction of Allah as a god is logically inconsistent if it shared any attributes with God.

They are pictured as the same god, stop being grumpy about it

Two very huge differences 1st allah is never referred to as heavenly father, nor not once in the 99 excellent names in the quran is allah ever called love. Makes for two very different pictures.

God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by annatar - August 25, 2010 at 3:04 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by DeistPaladin - August 25, 2010 at 10:19 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by fr0d0 - August 25, 2010 at 6:51 pm
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by Ashendant - August 25, 2010 at 8:23 pm
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by annatar - August 25, 2010 at 9:03 pm
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by padraic - August 25, 2010 at 9:57 pm
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by fr0d0 - August 26, 2010 at 3:24 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by DeistPaladin - August 26, 2010 at 9:16 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by Godschild - August 26, 2010 at 10:50 pm
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by annatar - August 26, 2010 at 4:45 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by fr0d0 - August 26, 2010 at 7:41 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by annatar - August 26, 2010 at 8:52 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by fr0d0 - August 26, 2010 at 6:03 pm
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by Minimalist - August 26, 2010 at 7:40 pm
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by annatar - August 26, 2010 at 11:25 pm
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by fr0d0 - August 27, 2010 at 5:24 pm
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by Minimalist - August 26, 2010 at 11:30 pm
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by Minimalist - August 27, 2010 at 5:26 pm
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by annatar - August 27, 2010 at 8:33 pm
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by fr0d0 - August 27, 2010 at 9:49 pm
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by Zen Badger - August 28, 2010 at 6:32 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by fr0d0 - August 28, 2010 at 7:38 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by downbeatplumb - August 28, 2010 at 7:53 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by Zen Badger - August 28, 2010 at 8:03 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by madferit - August 28, 2010 at 9:09 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by annatar - August 28, 2010 at 11:09 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by fr0d0 - August 28, 2010 at 7:05 pm
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by Zen Badger - August 28, 2010 at 8:44 pm
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by annatar - August 28, 2010 at 7:23 pm
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by fr0d0 - August 28, 2010 at 10:41 pm
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by annatar - August 28, 2010 at 11:12 pm
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by fr0d0 - August 29, 2010 at 6:21 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by annatar - August 29, 2010 at 6:57 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by Zen Badger - August 29, 2010 at 9:11 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by fr0d0 - August 29, 2010 at 9:22 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by Zen Badger - August 30, 2010 at 5:47 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by fr0d0 - August 31, 2010 at 4:37 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by Zen Badger - August 31, 2010 at 5:37 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by padraic - August 31, 2010 at 5:59 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by Zen Badger - August 31, 2010 at 6:36 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by annatar - August 29, 2010 at 10:17 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by fr0d0 - August 30, 2010 at 9:43 pm
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by Ashendant - August 30, 2010 at 10:06 pm
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by annatar - August 30, 2010 at 6:05 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by Entropist - August 31, 2010 at 12:01 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by leo-rcc - August 31, 2010 at 3:41 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by padraic - August 31, 2010 at 5:00 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by fr0d0 - August 31, 2010 at 3:15 pm
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by Zen Badger - September 1, 2010 at 5:36 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by annatar - September 1, 2010 at 12:54 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by fr0d0 - September 1, 2010 at 7:22 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by Edwardo Piet - September 1, 2010 at 7:31 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by fr0d0 - September 1, 2010 at 4:04 pm
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by DeistPaladin - September 1, 2010 at 8:15 am
RE: Origin of Allah(Al-illah) - by Koldaramor - October 28, 2012 at 5:51 pm

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