RE: Does Atheism Lead to Nihilism?
March 16, 2015 at 10:08 am
(This post was last modified: March 16, 2015 at 10:17 am by The Grand Nudger.)
-ah, but it sounds like you can..provided you don't give it -too- much thought. 
The question only becomes "Is it sensible to define what it is/does as -the good-?, or , conversely is -the good- to be assigned a positive value judgement?" -In either case my conclusion is (still, after this language scrubbing) no, of course. If it is -the good- to either engage in the acts attributed to your god, or to be responsible, ultimately, for all that we see in the world - then I'm not interested in the good, I don't positively value it (and as positioning that probably sounds, again it's all about how it sounds, like it would be a convenient position to place an opposing viewpoint in...but it's all window dressing, you and I both still know exactly what we're talking about even if a casual observer is asking themselves "wtf did rhythm just say...he's not interested in -the good-?").
I'd use different language (and in this case am simply going with what you give me), but it doesn't matter, because we use different words for the same concepts all the time (most notably in that we speak many languages). It's the same question, different language. That's the trouble, Steve - in that it's just as easy to ask the question again by changing a few words as it is to avoid the question by changing a few words. The question itself remains, no matter how many layers of obfuscation either of us chooses to add, and constantly positioning ourselves so that what we say sounds better doesn't actually address the issue. Essentially, we're giving a turd a few layers of gelcoat. It may be shinier afterwards, but it's still a turd-and obviously so.
The question only becomes "Is it sensible to define what it is/does as -the good-?, or , conversely is -the good- to be assigned a positive value judgement?" -In either case my conclusion is (still, after this language scrubbing) no, of course. If it is -the good- to either engage in the acts attributed to your god, or to be responsible, ultimately, for all that we see in the world - then I'm not interested in the good, I don't positively value it (and as positioning that probably sounds, again it's all about how it sounds, like it would be a convenient position to place an opposing viewpoint in...but it's all window dressing, you and I both still know exactly what we're talking about even if a casual observer is asking themselves "wtf did rhythm just say...he's not interested in -the good-?").
I'd use different language (and in this case am simply going with what you give me), but it doesn't matter, because we use different words for the same concepts all the time (most notably in that we speak many languages). It's the same question, different language. That's the trouble, Steve - in that it's just as easy to ask the question again by changing a few words as it is to avoid the question by changing a few words. The question itself remains, no matter how many layers of obfuscation either of us chooses to add, and constantly positioning ourselves so that what we say sounds better doesn't actually address the issue. Essentially, we're giving a turd a few layers of gelcoat. It may be shinier afterwards, but it's still a turd-and obviously so.
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