RE: How Muslims believed earth was spherical long before anybody mentions it.
March 18, 2015 at 11:49 am
(March 10, 2015 at 2:52 am)AtlasS2 Wrote: Hello.
In many cases, history is written by the victors. As I gave human brain the chance to differ above old grudges, it didn't.
The Muslims were the nemesis of the west since the time of the Eastern Roman Empire, it was for two main reasons :
1)Muslims were mainly Arabs : Rome discriminated against Arabs ; and to them native Arab tribes were only frontline pawns used to hit Persia.
2)Muslims weren't Christian.
Aside from "who started it", it is proven historically that Rome butchered Arab tribes who befriended the prophet, and crucified them on the borders of the levant.
Anyhow, that grudge continued until this day, I always asked myself why Europe ignored to refer in its history books, that the Quran is first book to ever mentions directly that earth is round & even padded in its core.
Muslim scholars -since the 12th century- also believed the same thing blindly from the Quran, and again the book told the truth.
First, I will show you the Quranic verses that says that loud & clear :
( 5 ) He created the heavens and earth in truth. He shapes the night over the day in a round-shape, and shapes the day over the night in a round shape, and has subjected the sun and the moon, each running [its course] for a specified term. Unquestionably, He is the Exalted in Might, the Perpetual Forgiver. Page 458
#Verse notes :
1) In translations to English, this verse is translated wrong. The word used is "wraps" which is a forgery & a totally wrong translation.
Arabic wise, the original word is "Yokawer يكور", which means "shapes something in a round way". Ancient Arabs used this word for the turban : "The man Yokawer his turban : wrap it around his head in a round manner".
While the word used by translators "wraps" means in arabic "Yoghshi يغشي", which means literally "covering something, wraps it up", it is a totally different word describing a different action.
Arabic-Arabic translation :
http://www.almaany.com/ar/dict/ar-ar/يكور/
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2)The biggest bomb though, is that through the Islamic world, people believed "blindly" in the verse, and unlike Europe, Muslims believed earth was both round & in a ball shape.
Muslim scholars (who knew nothing about science but from reading the Quran), mentioned it loud & clear in their books, the most famous is "Ibn Timeia" who lived around 1200 AD.
You can find his book online (and IGNORED) here :
http://ar.wikisource.org/wiki/مجموع_الفت...اء_والصفات
He has a whole chapter named "In the telling that earth is spherical shaped" :
http://ar.wikisource.org/wiki/مجموع_الفت...روية_الأرض
I couldn't find an English translation for this ancient book -Of course-, though a simple google translation from Arabic to English would be sufficient.
They even believed in gravity, check it out. The Quran also mentions gravity in other verses.
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Aside from this ancient scholar (Ibn Taimeia), other famous Muslims said that throughout the ages, but most of their writings are in arabic and translation is hard, so I brought what I could.
The hypocrisy of history writing just amuses me. There is not even a word of mention to this in European sources..not even 1.
Still a load of crap. A child can point to the sky and call it blue and not understand the science behind why humans perceive the sky as blue. This is the gatekeeper fallacy humans in all religions and cultures fall for.
I have seen Christians and Jews and Hindus and Buddhists pull this crap. The ancient Greeks were the first to make the attempt to separate material and were the first to use the word "atom", but they had no clue what an electron proton or neutron was. And even if they did back then it still would not make their polytheistic gods real.
Making an observation is a product of our evolutionary ability to make observations, but what humans stupidly do when they make an observation, they gap fill and use that to justify their own social norms.
You cannot take ambiguous words describing something you do not understand and claim it is a scientific understanding.