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Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
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Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
OK! I own a copy by Abdullah Yusef Ali with English translation. If I accept that the original is expressed accurately in all it's copies, why should I accept the original is true?
One thing you never see: A guy in Boston, Mass. with a Union flag yelling "The Nawth's gonna rise again!"






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RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
(March 1, 2020 at 7:14 pm)chimp3 Wrote: OK! I own a copy by Abdullah Yusef Ali with English translation. If I accept that the original is expressed accurately in all it's copies, why should I accept the original is true?

As I understand it, the Quran is only truly understandable in Arabic, so even a side-by-side English translation does you no good.

That being said, I’m not sure I understand your question.

Boru
'A man is accepted into a church for what he believes.  He is turned out for what he knows.' - Mark Twain
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RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
(March 1, 2020 at 7:19 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(March 1, 2020 at 7:14 pm)chimp3 Wrote: OK! I own a copy by Abdullah Yusef Ali with English translation. If I accept that the original is expressed accurately in all it's copies, why should I accept the original is true?

As I understand it, the Quran is only truly understandable in Arabic, so even a side-by-side English translation does you no good.

That being said, I’m not sure I understand your question.

Boru
I am anticipating the argument that only the Arabic translation is true. I want to know why I should accept the original Arabic translation. I also want to know why I own a translation well accepted in the Muslim community.
One thing you never see: A guy in Boston, Mass. with a Union flag yelling "The Nawth's gonna rise again!"






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RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
(March 1, 2020 at 7:45 pm)chimp3 Wrote:
(March 1, 2020 at 7:19 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: As I understand it, the Quran is only truly understandable in Arabic, so even a side-by-side English translation does you no good.

That being said, I’m not sure I understand your question.

Boru
I am anticipating the argument that only the Arabic translation is true. I want to know why I should accept the original Arabic translation. I also want to know why I own a translation well accepted in the Muslim community.

Oh, ta. I get it now.

Boru
'A man is accepted into a church for what he believes.  He is turned out for what he knows.' - Mark Twain
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RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
Because the original says it's true. If it says it's true, then it has to be true.

Remember, it was written by the most caring, kind hearted, open minded, understanding people to ever walk the Earth. This fact alone should authenticate its absolute accuracy.
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RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
God is powerful enough to telepathically pass his inerrant word through time and space so a person can write it all down flawlessly, but is unable to guide the mind of a translator to get the translation right! Makes perfect sense. Oh, and you should believe it because there are some vague passages in there that can be stretched to sort of resemble things tangentially related to science.
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RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
The koran is a compilation of religious stuff. How much of it is true is directly proportional to how many people believe that it is true, divided by the number of people who don't...times zero.
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RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
It is good to see the sensible writing  "Koran" instead of that over-correct "Qur'ân".

Are we Arabs that are obliged to write in a strenge way?

"Koran" is a good enough spelling.

(April 17, 2020 at 10:15 pm)Dundee Wrote: It is good to see the sensible writing  "Koran" instead of that over-correct "Qur'ân".

Are we Arabs that are obliged to write in a strange way?

"Koran" is a good enough spelling.
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RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
The side by side thing is just weird. There are two adults in my household who can read and speak "arabic"..of a grand total of two adults in my household - magic book says the same shit in any language.

These stupid fuckers are so batshit insane that they invent an angelic language to explain their invented angelic superstions.
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RE: Muslims: If the Koran is Unaltered...
(April 17, 2020 at 11:00 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The side by side thing is just weird.  There are two adults in my household who can read and speak "arabic"..of a grand total of two adults in my household - magic book says the same shit in any language.

These stupid fuckers are so batshit insane that they invent an angelic language to explain their invented angelic superstions.

I confess to not being able to read Arabic, but I like to look at it.  Like Elvish, it's a very pretty-looking script.

Also like Elvish, it's of zero fucking utility to me.

Boru
'A man is accepted into a church for what he believes.  He is turned out for what he knows.' - Mark Twain
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