Christans show Jesus is God and not Satan

[Lek]

Lek, come on. You're more intelligent than this. To say that Jesus is god because the bible says so is to commit circular reasoning. Surely you see the flaw in that way of thinking.

The point of this thread wasn't to indicate that Jesus was actually demon-possessed or anything like that, it was to emphasize that you can't know that and -- like you -- must resort to taking the authors' word for it. I believe you've discussed the topic of why the bible is unreliable in another thread.

Try to look at it this way: if you have to take the word of some anonymous writers about something that was not documented in any other source, how valid is your belief? Just why would you even consider taking it as true if you hadn't been taught to believe it at an early age?

Do you believe anything that hasn't been proven? If there exists a supernatural being in a supernatural existence, you're not going to prove it by natural means. If there is a God, then he can show himself to us in an unnatural way. If he has shown me and I am convinced that he is real, then I'll believe. When you look at the world do you just see a bunch of matter that is exists in various forms? When I look I see matter that acts as if somebody put it together and gave it a purpose. We all view that evidence differently. As for christianity and the bible, I believe it because I believe that's the way God has led me. I'm not a fundamentalist or one to interpret the scriptures in a strict wooden fashion, but I study them and take from them what the Spirit reveals to me.

I came into this forum thinking that I could put forth some science and historical sources that would convince an unbeliever that God and christianity are true, but found out I couldn't. At that point of realization, I had to make a choice as to whether or not to dump it all based on that realization. The problem is, I can't do it because whenever I ask God for direction, I become convinced that I'm right. Every time I examine the natural world I live in I become convinced I'm right.

One other reason that I remain a christian is that I believe God reveals himself in his people. If you stay in this forum enough, you may come to believe all the talk about how evil christians are and how atheists are actually more moral, which I don't buy. I see christians who are filled with the Spirit and living under a power that I consider beyond natural, serving God and their fellow human beings. I just see it emanating from them. That's not what you perceive, but I do, and that's evidence to me. I'm an adult now and I'm trying to experience every challenge to my faith that I can. Don't tell me I only believe because I was raised a christian. Faith evolves. I started out as an anxious catholic and have become a more relaxed "plain" christian and I assume I'll continue to evolve as I search for continuing revelation.