(March 18, 2015 at 7:25 pm)daver49 Wrote: Does it do that to you? If that is the case, I want the next exit to Brooklyn!God could've made this a moot point by making it clear what he meant. But as with the rest of the Bible, the reader is left to figure it out for himself, and unsurprisingly people cannot seem to reach a consensus. That might be another fun topic to throw at the theists: ask them to define what perfection means in the Biblical context and count the number of different answers and try to figure out which one is the most unspecific and vague.
We are to be perfect as God is perfect...not necessarily the same concept that we have of perfection. It seems that we think we "know" what that is, and thus the SNAFU...at least in my view from the valley surrounded by mountains.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould
